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PostSubject: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   14th May 2016, 11:25 am

Sailor Senshi come with a wide range of attacks and outfits.

Who do you think designed the outfits of Sailor Senshi and what do you think the importance of an outfit means aside from concealing their present day identities?

Who do you think comes up with attack don't know about the outfits but I imagine the girls training with their powers decide the names of their attacks.

Like Makoto was cooking with coconuts and training and a whole bunch of fun character development fillers ended up creating the attack.

So they normally name their attacks and they have to be similar to their powers but can have creative flair despite that.

And Taiki lost a bet with Yaten and Seiya and had to use the words Gentle and Uterus. Consecutively. 

And while it's similar to her power base, she really didn't want to make it that way in the beginning because she didn't want a gentle attack based on a body part. Even thiughbin my honest opinion, a uterus is far from gentle and super strong really.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   14th May 2016, 11:59 am

I think that the senshi outfits looked different in the Silver Millennium (they only match in flashbacks because that's what they visualize). They look like school uniforms now because it changed to match their time period. The school uniform is what they consider a proper dresscode, so it was affected by their mindset.

And as for attacks, I assumed they're like anchient spells or something, and the name just pops into their head ehen they learn it. I can also see their personality affecting the kinds of attacks they learn, like whether it's offensive or defensive.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 1:20 am

But in that case, why have they always been called 'sailor' senshi? Razz If there's one thing uniform (no pun intended) across all the outfits, it's that they all have sailor collars. So that must be the Sailor Crystal's design or something.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 6:38 am

Oh i like the Sailor School Uniform because as Mercury said the Sailor part is important.

Japanese school uniforms used to almost always have sailor collars and that is the only dominant factor in a sailor senshis uniform. 

Not even a tiara is always there. 

Only the collar.

Sailor Mercury are you saying the Sailor Crystals are living and conscious and they designed the very unique and differing uniforms for all sailor senshi?

I wonder why Senshi of the same solar systems tend to have the same uniforms too with only varying differences.

 Or do they have unique uniforms at first and then after becoming teamates, they make their uniforms more 'uniform'.

I wonder who designs not only the outfits but the upgrades.

And weapons. Like the Time Staff, the Silence Glaive, the Aqua Mirror, the Space Sword and Usagis items too.

And the tranformational items.

We know someone made Chibiusa that Luna-P, it did notbjist poof into existence and she in turn used it to make a weapon, which was similar to her mothers. She obviously had the design in mind when she did so.

I wonder if than other weapons were created using similar technology with infused magic like the Luna P?
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 6:47 am

I think Sailor Crystals are, to some extent, sentient, yeah. After all, it is the soul of sailor senshi, arguably the very core of their being. It isn't a stretch to think that it influences many things in regards to their senshi identities as the source of their power itself.

The case for starting out more different and then becoming more uniform happened with the Super and then Eternal upgrades as well. I think it's because they also became more linked to each other through one person, their princess. It could be the ginzuishou's doing as well.

Usagi and Chibiusa created the Kaleido Moon Scope from regular Kaleidoscopes, and Usagi and Mamoru created the Cutie Moon Rod together (in the anime it was the Spiral Heart Moon Rod). So I think there's definitely owner influence there in creating the weapons.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 7:03 am

Very interesting. You're diving into something deep that is purely going to be headcanons. 

When it comes to the idea of something "ancient" but clearly inspired by something modern (like the Japanese school uniform and sailor fuku for the senshi), I like to reverse the idea of what it is. For example, the senshi always used it, somehow Japan in the Sailor Moon world saw it somewhere along the lines, liked it, and incorporated it into their own dress. I mean the Silver Millenium is ancient. Perhaps they were inspired by these powerful senshi XD 

But in all seriousness, who knows. Maybe it was an always sort of thing. Maybe the name of their attacks are just what they name them based on who they are. Coconut cyclone obviously has nothing to do with electricity but Mako is a foodie/chef. Maybe it was called something else in her past life.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 7:23 am

To Sailor Mercury: Do you think that the sentient crystals and the owner of that crystal share a single consciousness that is separate until a certain level of power? 

For example, in the manga when we see in the inner Senshi visited by tiny versions of their Sailor selves. As if they got the power communicate with their separate entity their Sailor crystala?

Are the crystals and the consciousness of their owners and weilders always going to be together but seperate entities with their own personality's, thoughts and feelings?

Or are they, the girls, the same entity as the crystals themselves and they just haven't accessed the power/enlightenment/upgrade it takes to remember and access it unconsciously until they do?

To Jupiter Rose: it could be that, but I just like to theorize and putting meaning to things.

Coconuts are definitely a show of her cooking skills but it can also be viewed as linked to her power of wood and electricity.

Makoto had powers over plant life. Wood, flowers as a show of her oak, flower belt and hurricane power and other such things.

Coconuts come from trees, another play on her woodland powers despite then being storm or electrically charged.

I just wonder if it gets done consciously, semi consiously, unconsciously or by a separate entity all together?
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 7:25 am

Well yes of course, but coconuts and plant life don't really have much to do with electricity beyond storms. I suppose then maybe Jupiter could fall more in line with plants and storms and to an extent, life. Hmmmm...

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 7:53 am

Life would make sense. A quintessential type of element almost.

Jupiter in my opinion is on par powerwise with the outers.

Her electical power is the dominant power. 

She has an affinity for flowers and nature and gardening. She knows many herbs andnspices and recipes and all things edible.

These do come into play with her powers and even get uniform.

She loves flowers, so she has pink rose earings and a flower in her belt.

Electricity doesn't bring the color green to mind usually, but it does make people think of grass and trees and woods.

Pink isn't very common for electricity either, but it is the colors of flowers she associated with and despite being super strong, she's super girly. Like nature, it's beautiful but it's deadly.

The names are curious. 

Some sound super silly to me, in my opinion.

It's what keeps some people from taking it seriously, and other shows have had fun with putting meaning to such random phrases or even poking fun at them in the shows between characters.

I just like the idea of perhaps there is a story that lead to the name because to me, it's way more fun than it materializing into existence just because.

Like some phrases were created by them in their past life and they access it unconsciously and as they train in the present they come up with their new attack names


.Or if it was an ancient spell, someone made it for some reason knowing its purpose would be used by that particular Senshi one day.

And if they design their uniforms too, Usagi lost a bet about her Eternal Wings, or teased about her taste in clothes mercilessly.

Is it done with technology? A specfifc image in their mind? 

Is their a code to follow when designing their uniforms? 

Maybe like they have to stay similar between solar systems with few creative differences here and there, or full uniformity.

We know that when they make a senshi uniform, sailor collars are the biggest rule in making the outfit?

Is there someone like Tomoyo from Card Captor Sakura responsible for creating them in some other magical/godly/spiritual realm that predecidestheir destined designs? Or did they design them in the past and in the present?
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 9:44 am

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To Sailor Mercury: Do you think that the sentient crystals and the owner of that crystal share a single consciousness that is separate until a certain level of power? 

For example, in the manga when we see in the inner Senshi visited by tiny versions of their Sailor selves. As if they got the power communicate with their separate entity their Sailor crystala?

Are the crystals and the consciousness of their owners and weilders always going to be together but seperate entities with their own personality's, thoughts and feelings?

Or are they, the girls, the same entity as the crystals themselves and they just haven't accessed the power/enlightenment/upgrade it takes to remember and access it unconsciously until they do?

I think there is a separation, as Sailor Crystals are just the essence of that planet power within them. The girls are the ones that provide the personality. So for example another Sailor Venus in the future may possess the same Sailor Crystal but will be a different person entirely. That is why the tiny versions of themselves are depicted as separate/another entity. The Sailor Crystal is always the same, but the wielders change.

Jupiter has two unrelated elements because Naoko took both Japanese and Western influence for her. Jupiter the Roman god has domain over lightning and planet Jupiter in Japanese is "Mokusei" which means wood star. Hence the two unrelated elements in her powers.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 11:33 am

Since you view them as separate entities, do you think a future Sailor Venus's uniform will be the same or have differences?

Do you think the attack phrases will be the same or will the element be the same but the power phrase itself and how it's performed will change?
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 11:37 am

I think they will have some differences. I never thought about the fuku, but now that I think about it, it'll likely retain its colors (or at the very least Venus' for example will always have some orange/yellow in it) but may vary in design.

As for attacks, they definitely will be different. Same element, because that's where the power source comes from, but different manifestations and names.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   15th May 2016, 12:07 pm

That's pretty cool to think about!

So like, Jupiter will retain green, mars red and Venus orange/yellow.

Do you think their secondary colors are defined by the current life and personalities, like pink for Makoto but a future Jupiter might have different color bows that suit her personality/likes and etc more?

Venus wears a red bow for reasons in her civilian life, so are we to assume I'm the silver millenium she didn't?
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   16th May 2016, 6:50 am

Possibly! I think it can be any way you headcanon it to be honest.

Princess Venus has a yellow ribbon with her princess gown instead of red, so I like to think that she wore a ribbon too back then, just a different color for a different reason.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   16th May 2016, 7:04 am

And sometimes it looked like she wore a crown like in Artemis's vision and other times she had a rose or jewel between her bow so they can accessorize their uniform to match their current feelings too!

Oh I love these ideas haha!

I wonder about Tuxedo Masks La Smoking Bomber, it's such an interesting attack phrase and it leaves the element unknown.

Another thing I am curious about is the make up. The literal make up we often see during transformations, not just lipgloss or lipstick but nail polish too and for some, eye shadow.

Is it like war paint, could the nail polish also be like the Kissing Bandit from the book Holes and contain poison? Is the reason it doesn't work on Senshi is because they are senshi, and the reason it didn't work on Diamondo because he was already immune to most poisons thanks to the black crystal? (Was she even transformed when he kissed her, I don't remember)

Probably not but the idea from Holes was too good to not think about the make up in regards to power instead of just pretty fluff
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   18th May 2016, 9:22 pm

I've argued elsewhere that Sailor Jupiter's element is actually Wood(Air), which explains most of her attacks being associated with storms, and other vegetation.

I've always wondered what the difference between her and Haruka's powers are.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   19th May 2016, 2:51 am

Harukas powers are solely air based, and she can damage and manipulate the ground depending on how she concentrates her attack.

Makotos attacks are wood or solely storm/lightening based storm attacks and not air persay.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   19th May 2016, 3:45 am

Haruka cites her guardian planet as that of the heavens.

Very different.

It's the same with Mercury and Neptune both being Water, but Neptune channeling the power of the sea,whereas Mercury channels the power of states of Water.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   19th May 2016, 5:10 am

There was a fanfiction I read and in it argued each henshin item has several templates available. So, Minako forces Artemis to tinker with one template on everyone's genshin item to give them some sort of bondage-themed outfit, cause totes embarassing when they transformed! Lmao

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Designing, Titling... who is responsible?   19th May 2016, 1:14 pm

If she's not using the word heavens, she's saying air or wind or any so it's air. They mean the same in this concept.

Ami and Neptune both use water, I imagine since the ocean has warm and cold spots, she can manipulate temperature too but her secondary powers of music/sound waves can't really be out as an element.

I love the template idea! I've read that elsewhere too.

I want to know what would happen if Usagi called out Mars's transformation phrase using her item and Vice verse.

Would they transform or not and would Usagi be dressed like her or would they be red skirt and color but different bows and be able to use her powers or combine each others powers like transforming together and they are a mix of moon and mars and etc.
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