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PostSubject: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   6th July 2016, 10:47 pm

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Before Sailor Moon’s final fight with Galaxia, the Outers faced Galaxia on their own. Uranus and Neptune turned on Pluto and Saturn and stole their Star Seeds, in order to get a free shot on Galaxia later on. Soon after this, Sailor Moon, together with the Inners and Starlights, arrived. The Inners were quickly killed by Galaxia. After Uranus and Neptune saw their opportunity, they attacked Galaxia and tried to steal her Star Seed, only to realize that she hasn’t got one. After this Uranus and Neptune were killed as well, leaving only Sailor Moon and the Sailor Starlights behind. This leads us to our question:

Would all Sailor Senshis together be able to defeat Galaxia?

Looking at Episode 199, we see the Sailor Starlights combining their attacks and damaging Galaxia, hence we know that she is not invincible. From Episode 198 we know that Uranus and Neptune were the first Senshis who are strong enough to overcome the mind controlling powers of Galaxia’s bracelets. I believe that the rest of the Outers and the Inners as well would be able to overcome the bracelets too, making them the strongest enemies that Galaxia had ever faced.

Now to our what if scenario:

What if Uranus and Neptune didn’t try to solo Galaxia? All attacks on Galaxia were performed alone, rendering it easy for Galaxia to defend herself. If the Outers alone combined their attacks on Galaxia, I believe that they would be able to inflict enough damage to her, to at least hold out until Sailor Moon and the others arrived. Since Galaxia would have been weakened, I think that the Inner Senshis would have not been killed, leaving Galaxia with 12 enemies to face, instead of only 4. If all of them combined their powers, I believe that they would not only be able to inflict damage to Galaxia, but to completely obliterate her.
But with this we come to a downside of this scenario: Sailor Moon. She did not want to fight Galaxia. But I believe since her friends did not die, the others would be able to convince her to fight Galaxia.
(Personally I think that would have made a better ending for Stars. Sailor Moon who doesn’t want to fight and all Sailor Senshis fighting their last big enemy together. Only after Sailor Moon realizes that her power is needed and she joins the attack, their power is enough to defeat Galaxia.)

But I haven’t tackled on Sailor Saturn yet. During the fight against Nehellenia we see that she is able to kill a person, but sacrifices herself for this. What if she was able to perform that on a distracted Sailor Galaxia?

What do you think?
Would the Sailor Senshis be able to defeat Galaxia with a joint attack? And would Sailor Saturn be able to kill Galaxia, or would Galaxia’s power be too great?

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   7th July 2016, 6:10 am

This is something that I have always wondered. In both manga and anime. The Senshi never fought her at the same time and they were killed off before they could unite against her. I personally believe that together, they could've stopped her. But I'm a fan of a team battle, so it could just be my preference but it might not have worked in practice.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   7th July 2016, 6:18 am

It makes sense that one big "All Your Powers Combined" attack would damage her. If they all did it, she's probably die.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   26th July 2016, 10:49 am

I think at the very least Saturn would have been able to damage her. In both the anime and manga, she is seen to be the second strongest of their group, second to only Sailor Moon. If they had combined their strength I think the outers could have defeated her. The way it played out in the anime, it didn't give them a chance and they were destroyed before they could in the manga.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   26th July 2016, 11:08 am

If every single senshi, asteroid and starlights included, were to attack her all at once I think she'd be damaged enough to either just flat out die or be near death. Kinda hard to tell though, since we're talking about both cannons. If both galaxias, the poor possessed one in the 90s anime and powermad crazy one in the manga, it's implied that she's the strongest senshi in the universe. Heck, her starseed (in the anime) was powerful enough to take a human/smaller senshi form. That being said, I don't think any group/team would be able to defeat her-though they'd damage her, but if they all worked together she'd be toast.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   26th July 2016, 11:21 am

I thought that it was cannon that Galaxia's star seed was the second most powerful, Usagi's being more powerful than hers?

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   26th July 2016, 11:27 am

You've got a point. I wonder if given the situation, would usagi's crystal take on a human form? That'd be for another debate though.
Though the starseed was second best, it was stated that she was the strongest senshi. I still think it'd take everyone to defeat her. Though now I'm wondering how she was able to become the strongest senshi with only the second best starseed. Again, that'd probably be another debate.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   26th July 2016, 11:44 am

Going on to Addelyn's point with Sailor Saturn:

I am really not sure if Saturn would be able to kill or at least severely damage her. As they Outer Senshi approach Galaxia, Saturn wants to use her power but is talked out of it by Galaxia. Was Galaxia only bluffing or did she really know that even Saturn's ability to kill someone isn't enough to kill her before awakening Saturn again?

And taking to account that Sailor Moon's star seed is the strongest: Would her power alone be enough to defeat Galaxia if she tried to fight?

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   26th July 2016, 2:33 pm

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Going on to Addelyn's point with Sailor Saturn:

I am really not sure if Saturn would be able to kill or at least severely damage her. As they Outer Senshi approach Galaxia, Saturn wants to use her power but is talked out of it by Galaxia. Was Galaxia only bluffing or did she really know that even Saturn's ability to kill someone isn't enough to kill her before awakening Saturn again?

And taking to account that Sailor Moon's star seed is the strongest: Would her power alone be enough to defeat Galaxia if she tried to fight?

I think Saturn was going to use her ultimate attack that would kill everyone in that space area, thus leaving Earth safe. I think if she had used another attack like maybe Death Reborn Revolution to destroy or harm Galaxia.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   27th August 2016, 4:25 pm

But Saturn didn't have to destroy Earth or another Space Area. In the Second Nehellenia Arc, we can see that Sailor Saturn is able to kill a person of her choosing and only that one person. Saturn threatens to kill Nehellenia, but the woman warns her that this would be a double edged sword, and that she would die with her. Saturn shows that she would sacrifice everything to save the Prince and Princess, but is then stopped by Chibiusa.


This is the clip of it. The part I'm talking about is around 3:30.

In the Episode where Saturn and the others confront Galaxia, she wants to use this power against her, but is talked out of it, because Galaxia tells her that she was the one who caused her awakening and wouldn't do so if Saturn had any powers that could be dangerous to her. I am really interested if this was only a bluff, or if this power really would have no effect on Galaxia. We know that Saturn is the strongest after Sailor Moon, so she has to be one of the strongest in the whole Galaxy.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] The Limits of Galaxia's Power (Anime // Spoilers!)   31st August 2016, 1:22 pm

If we are talking about the anime, then you need to remember that they were technically not fighting Galaxia.  They were fighting Chaos using Galaxia's body as a host with an unknown quantity of added power from the stolen Sailor Crystals she had obtained to that point.  The power of the Sapphire crystal is irrelevant since that was her starseed that was ejected as the Light of Hope and thus not powering her.   There is no way to know how much power she actually drew from the stolen crystals.   We know she had a lot of them but was there a limit to how much energy could be remotely channeled via her bracelets?  Also did she still have forces spread throughout the galaxy that were also still tapping into this energy dividing it or was it just one planet at a time that was targeted?

Let's ignore the external stolen power and just look at the internal...aka the power of the entity Chaos itself.  Can you beat a dark cosmic entity thru just pure overwhelming force?   I tend to think the answer is no.  I mean first of all if you could then Galaxia probably would not have needed to seal Chaos inside herself to begin with.  Plus while the combined attack of the Starlights managed to overwhelm "Galaxia" (after her initially being able to block them all at once with an invisible shield) and bring her to her knees, seconds later she was standing as if nothing had happened having been apparently instantly fully healed.   I think that would have pretty much been best case scenario for the Outers (minus Saturn) + Inners.  They could maybe momentarily overwhelm her but not been strong enough to completely destroy her beyond what Chaos's power could repair.   So yeah I tend to think that the the only person who could have won was Sailor Moon with the purity based power of her Silver Crystal being able to attack Chaos inside her itself instead of just the host body?

Saturn is an interesting case though.  Galaxia could be damaged as shown by her being cut by the Light of Hope sword.  So with the power to destroy a planet she may indeed have had the power to completely destroy Galaxia's body...although would killing her have done anything to Chaos itself or just set it completely free to threaten the cosmos on its own like before it was sealed?  Then again maybe as more of a possible cosmic entity herself maybe Saturn's energy could have actually injured it too?   Still don't think she could have actually destroyed or dispersed it like Sailor Moon though so best case scenario is just delaying the major cosmic threat for a short time before it continued what it started.

As far as Sailor Galaxia being the strongest Senshi ie having the strongest crystal, there are a lot of unknowns to that claim.  I mean basically it seems like it was just based on her accomplishments during the Sailor Wars especially the fact that she was the one that ultimately tracked down and defeated Chaos.   But what we don't know is if for example Serenity, Saturn, or even the original wielder of the Golden Crystal ever played a role in the Wars or truly fought Chaos on the front lines.  So the comparative powers of those three crystals to the Sapphire one could have been a complete unknown to those who made the claim of Galaxia's being the strongest.
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