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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   12th July 2011, 8:47 pm

I personally believe that Sailor Cosmos is supposed to be a god-like figure.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   15th July 2011, 5:45 pm

I saw a theory on Tumblr and i quite agree with it, the "time is circular" theory, where basically, Cosmos is Queen Serenity.


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Time is Circular.
Queen Serenity, the original user of the Silver Crystal and once a Sailor Soldier, was the survivor of a great and powerful war; she was not strong enough to defeat the enemy Chaos entirely, and instead fled, taking refuge on the moon of a distant planet; Earth, quickly taking ownership of it, swearing never to transform again, and providing a eutopia for those who had similarly been affected by the war. But Chaos caught up with her, and attacked her Silver Millennium; when her daughter Princess Serenity died, she used the Silver Crystal to send her to the future, where she could hopefully be the one to defeat Chaos.
But time is circular. She is doomed to forever be punished by Guardian Cosmos for her cowardice, and as time carries on she will be reborn thousands of years later through her daughter’s daughters into that same war, and flee in the same ways. Queen Serenity is Sailor Cosmos.

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So, why not? I mean, she came from the future but, at the same time, she talks about the past. Not bringing a whole religion views discussion here, what if Cosmos is Queen Serenity's spirit/soul reborn to see how Neo Queen is handling her own time and seeing how she was in the past, as a senshi, it just gave her courage to fight her past with Galaxia.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   15th July 2011, 9:01 pm

That is definitely an interesting theory. Since reincarnation and rebirth is a major theme in Sailor Moon, I could see this as being possible.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   22nd July 2011, 12:01 am

I think there are many plausible theories here, and there's mine:
i personally like to believe in reincarnation. Idk, it just seems right.
therefore, every person - senshi or not, is reincarnated in some form.
Usagi already remembers 2 of her lives- past- as princess Serenity, and present, as Usagi.
And her present reincarnation is indeed a progress to her past one- from princess to senshi, from protector of Moon kingdom to protector of whole Solar System.
it is possible, that in far far future Neo-queen Serenity dies of age or in battle and is reincarnated several millenia later- but not on Earth - somewhere else. She is "promoted" again to "Sailor Cosmos", a protector of all the galaxy. it is possible also that she can't find her reincarnated friends - may be not because they don't exist or are dead- but because the galaxy is way too big (remember- she met her friends only because Luna was looking for them, plus they got "lucky" with all supernatural things going on around them. But imagine if Minako stayed in London, Ami went to Germany, Makoto was born in France and Rei immigrated to Italy? would they meet? I hardly doubt that. at least, not that fast).
so, she travels back in time to see them again- and to see herself- her past self- again - just like Usagi had been given back the memories of princess Serenity.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   22nd August 2011, 12:08 am

I just want to point out two things I stumbled upon while re-reading the stars chapter of the manga:



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I think that when Sailor Moon dove into the cauldron, and while summoning every single senshi power in existence, is when she became Sailor Cosmos. Plus, it kind of repeatedly states this for the next 5-10 pages. I mean, it's pretty hard to say otherwise when there is so much proof.

You remember when she met her future self as the Queen, and even when she fought and broke the senshi free of the dungeon she kind of assumed "another form".


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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   22nd August 2011, 12:20 am

Oooooooh. Thats interesting. But the way she talks, she talks like they are two seperate people. It leads me to believe that that Sailor Cosmos is a future reincarnation or descendent or something. Also she says something about replacing her to become the true Sailor Cosmos. Does this mean, like you suggested up there V, she Sailor Moon just took the form of Cosmos kind of temporarily? Makes me want to reread it all again. ^^

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   22nd August 2011, 12:56 am

I think it's kinda like third person, or something. But when she met the Queen, she called her, "Queen!" rather than "OH HI THERE SELF." So it'd sound silly if Cosmos was all, "YEAH, I CAME TO REMIND MYSELF TO BE AWESOME. THEN I DOVE INTO THE CAULDRON WHILE LOOKING AT MYSELF FALL INTO IT. IT WAS AWESOME."


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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   22nd August 2011, 1:19 am

Well it's possible, but the way she talks about Sailor Cosmos as if its a named passed down and earned upon the person who bestows it. She could have easily said something like "the new me" instead of "the new Sailor Cosmos", but I guess that's what makes it ambiguous as Takeuchi wanted.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   22nd August 2011, 2:12 am

Well, Cosmos didn't appear UNTIL AFTER Usagi threw herself into the cauldron with all of the power of every senshi.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   22nd August 2011, 4:04 pm

Oh gosh, you're right. I totally need to reread the Stars Arc. it really is the most unfamiliar one to me. XD

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   11th September 2011, 10:54 am

@Sailor Azoth wrote:
My head hurts...

I'm for the idea that Usagi has an eternal soul (as she is Sailor Moon) and becomes Sailor Cosmos in a future reincarnation.

Haha, I like how this is straight to the point. Excellent!!

@jaknel wrote:

Something that caught my attention is that Sailor Cosmos charms (the jewelry in her collar and forehead) are star shaped, not Crescent Moon shaped, or heart. In the night sky, the stars shine, but not as brightly and big as the moon. Sailor Moon shines no matter what, her love is eternal, and Sailor Cosmos lost perspective of this.

This is a very poetic way of thinking, and I've never even thought of it that way.

Ever since I first read the Stars manga & Sailor Cosmos was introduced, I automatically assumed that was Sailor Moon's truest form, even beyond Eternal Sailor Moon. I actually didn't realise all of the debates until now....

(On a side note, I took all morning to read this. haha)
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   11th October 2011, 12:31 pm

Okay, so here comes unpopular opinion ^^ In the Stars Arc, fans are pretty much led to believe that Sailor Cosmos is the future form of Sailor Moon. I tend to disagree. I believe that Sailor Cosmos is one of the many possibilities of what can become of Sailor Moon in the future based on the information stated in the R arc of the manga.

The reasoning behind this thought is bascially what is said in the R arc of Sailor Moon. At almost the end of this arc, Sailor Moon wants to see her future self but knows that if she does, it would change the course of history. In the end, she looks back and right there is Neo Queen Serenity. According to the manga at that point, history should have changed which is why at one point she could have become Sailor Cosmos.

Here's a recap of that part of the manga:



So this is stating that basically, everytime Sailor Moon meets her future/past selves face to face, the course of history is changed.This should be no different in Stars arc with this "rule" stated in the manga.

Since we fans are pretty much led to believe that Sailor Cosmos is a future form of Sailor Moon, then by all right, history in the Sailor Moon Universe should have changed since Sailor Moon and Sailor Cosmos has actually seen each other. I do believe that at that point, Cosmos was the future incantation of Sailor Moon bu since they had seen each other, that may not be the case anymore. So the question comes to my mind at this point is, "Since Sailor Moon has seen Cosmos, does Cosmos actually exist in the future?". That is why I think she is one of many possiblities that could become Sailor Moon, but is not indefinite.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   11th October 2011, 10:47 pm

That is such a good point! I've actually thought about that. I've wondered if the way time worked in the SM universe was similar to how it worked in the DBZ universe where it would essentially create another timeline/dimension, where different things would happen. I think she that there is still a possibility there will be a Sailor Cosmos, even though they interacted with each other. But odd thing is, why would she come and show up as Chibi Chibi if she isn't a future incarnation of Sailor Moon? Its odd.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   12th October 2011, 7:42 pm

My own belief is that Sailor Cosmos is a future form of Usagi/Sailor Moon, but is also a different sort of entity.

My little theory of sorts goes as follows:

As Chibi-Usa comes into adulthood, Neo Queen Serenity is nearing the end of her extended life. Chibi-Usa--known now as Lady Serenity--ascends to the throne now to rule, earning the title of Neo Queen Serenity II (Naoko would probably come up with something better, just roll with me for now Very Happy ) and of course blesses the world now with her own Pink Crystal, rather than the Silver Crystal. I think NQS continued to live on the side-lines, watching her daughter rule (and possibly begin to raise a family), but NQS also had to watch her friends die off and somehow I see that, almost tragically, NQS is the last to pass on. However, instead of dying, she taps into the reserves of her power, and that of the Silver Crystal, to become Sailor Cosmos. I also don't think she was necessarily deeply traumatized by the original Senshi's deaths along with Endymions, but instead used her love for them and vice versa to become that ultimate power, and the watch the galaxy/cosmos and protect it in their honor, and in honor of thier friendships and love. With this power-up her appearance also changes.

(This actually stems from the end of Puella Magi Madoka Magica, where Madoka gives up her life to cleanse all the puella magi of the darkness and in turn becomes a ruler of all the puella/the world/the galaxy, keeping their force pure. When she takes on this power, hew whole appearance also changes as well. I've seen this be referred to as her "Goddess" form, though I'm not sure if this is the official term. )

Now, we've seen were Cosmos states she lost the will power to defeat Chaos in her own time. What I believe happened was Chaos attacked the future, destroying the Earth and of course with it all it's inhabitants including Chibi-Usa, the Quartet, etc. Cosmos has also lost her former friends and lover as well, and while it strengthened it before, now it has begun to bring her down. She continues to persevere on and tries to prevent Chaos from destroying more planets but realizes she cannot in this state and flees to the past to seek guidance and power from her former self, the part of Cosmos--of Usagi--that she forgot.

As for the time paradox issue, it seems to have been well established Cosmos changed her form to Chibi Chibi (so as not to be confused with the Usagi of the past, I believe because if she downgraded her form, she would of course resemble Usagi wholly). I think that because Cosmos gained that sort of God-like power--and is sort of a different Usagi altogether--it wouldn't matter if she was with Usagi for a month of six months. Cosmos'... aura? power signature? Whatever you want to call it, it's different and therefore does not clash/mesh with Usagi's because hers is different as well.

In the end Cosmos learns a lot from Eternal Sailor Moon. At this point of the story where Cosmos appears, ESM has lost all of her friends, as well as Mamoru, very much like how Cosmos lost everyone. Also, as Chibi Chibi, she saw Usagi's heartache with each loss, but also how she persevered on, determined to avenge her lost friends and also to save the world in their honor. Cosmos' own reserve is renewed as she watches ESM sacrifice herself for the world--for the galaxy and returns to her own time to face Chaos.

Soo...yeah. That's just my little tidbit ^^
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   16th October 2011, 2:55 pm

Holy crap Dx My brain hurts from trying to comprehend all these theories. Out of all of them My favorite is moon-balls' theory. It makes sense to me.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   14th November 2011, 10:07 pm

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I am surprised no one caught this or posted it.



This is an excerpt from a page in the final act, Act 52, where Cosmos is talking to the Sailor Quartet and she says, quite plainly (in the Mixx scanlation) that she is from the far future where, after Usagi and Chaos melted into the Galaxy Cauldron and were reborn with all the other scouts in the 30th century (so they do not LIVE from now until the 30th century, they are reborn there), she and Chaos fight again, but she was unable to beat him (probably due to not being used to being a Scout and so she was not as strong as she was as Sailor Moon) so she ran away. So Cosmos is indeed a future form of Sailor Moon (according to this translation anyway).

If you want me to back this up with more image-proof, I can certainly do that.


I read the same translated version. From my understanding Cosmos couldn't beat Chaos AFTER Chaos obtained Senshi powers. This is what motivated Cosmos to travel back in time to destroy Chaos before it could gain senshi powers. Also I believe Cosmos comes further in the future than the 30th century we see in the manga and anime.

On the matter of Sailor Moon losing power. I believe Cosmos is indeed the strongest Sailor Moon but having not fought in centuries and relinquishing her role as a senshi, she lost her warriors heart and courage she had when she was Sailor Moon in the 20th century.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   19th December 2011, 6:17 pm

My theory:

Chaos and Cosmos are the original creators of the Universe. Usagi Tsukino is simply an incarnation of Cosmos who exists eternally in some shape or form. The same way as Chaos can be Metallia or Nehellenia at the same time, Cosmos can be Usagi or Sailor Cosmos or even Queen Serenity at the same time. The Sailor Soldier versions of Chaos and Cosmos in my theory would appear from time to time throughout history.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   20th June 2012, 12:54 am

Bumping this very important issue!

I think something seriously, seriously crappy happened while Chibiusa was on the throne, and our good old Usagi turned into Cosmos.

But, these theories from you guys? They are the most amazing things I have read.

Also, Miki above? AWESOME THEORY. <3

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   20th June 2012, 11:43 am

I say nay to the idea of Cosmos being a future form of our Usagi because




IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A PERSON TO EXIST IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE.

And, clearly,


they be existin' in two places at once.
If they were one and the same, those cuddle times on Earth would've gotten pretty awkward and strange really quickly, when one of them (Probably chibichibi since she's out of her time) starts to get all see-through and disappears into the nether.


I think Cosmos:Usagi::Usagi:Serenity; they share the same soul, but they're not the same people. Cosmos went back to the past because she could remember she did it before, but she's lost all of her friends -- check out her uniform. That's not a rainbow on her skirt, that's the color of Usagi's senshi, which leads me to believe that she was somehow reborn without them and their powers were added to hers, which makes her the most powerful senshi in the universe ((even Endymion's, if you wanted to count all the gold accents that hug her body as his display of being with her)), but still she doesn't fully understand the lesson Usagi had to teach her. Usagi would be like the pinnacle of greatness for all of her incarnations; each of the others had something to learn from her. Smile

That's what I think, anyway, and I'd be happy to delve deeper if anyone wanted. ^^' ((coughcough this headcanon didn't inspire my cosmos fic or anything coughcough))

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   20th June 2012, 4:18 pm

The only argument that could be made about that rule is that NQS and Sailor Moon DO end up seeing each other in very very close vicinity and everything was honky dory (at least we think, who knows what chibi got effed up). HOWEVER, that was only for a small period of time.

I also think naoko is a bit contradictory on some of the time travel stuff.

I also like to think of time in the Doctor Who kinda way.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   20th June 2012, 10:13 pm

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I also like to think of time in the Doctor Who kinda way.

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PostSubject: Doubting the Road One's Taken: Moon to Cosmos   29th September 2012, 1:08 am

I believe Sailor Cosmos is from a timeline where Sailor Moon threw herself into the cordon, regretted it and came back to change the past, only to discover she had made the right choice all along. I'm probably going to repeat facts others have posted, so if it gets rather repetitive I apologize. I just completed the Manga last night, and only have several episodes of the Anime to go. Here I go!
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1. Physical Make-up!
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This isn't exactly official evidence but I believe the look of Cosmos is one big hint. One could almost argue that Chibi Chibi's pink hair and Sailor Cosmos' white hair are throw backs to Sailor moon's original development.
"In the initial sketches, Sailor Moon had pink hair. By the intermediate stages of development, Takeuchi planned to have the character's hair be blonde in civilian form and change to silver when she transformed, but she was told by her editor that silver hair would be too plain for cover art. Nevertheless, stylistic use of differently-colored hair does sometimes appear in later artwork, and the concept of the heroines' hair changing color when transformed is used in Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon."
http://sailormoon.wikia.com/wiki/Sailor_Moon
Chibi Chibi's blood type is reported to be O, the same as Usagi's!
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2. Time Travel
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Though Chibi Chibi does spend a great deal of time with Usagi, she is very good at not revealing ANYTHING about the future to her. Even when she orders Moon to destroy the Galaxy Cordon, she only tell Moon she will regret. She doesn't mention that SHE in fact IS the
future Moon and IS regretting it because the battle with Sailor Chaos is costing so much! Chibi Chibi also doesn't revert to her form of Cosmos until Moon is 100% destined to NOT destroy the Galaxy Cordon, therefore the timeline will stay the same and she will inevitably become Cosmos. Perhaps Chibi Chibi is what Sailor Moon would have been reincarnated as had she not thrown herself into the Cordon, certainly not as epic or heroic, I'll tell ya what!

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3. Let's examine the pages . . .
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http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F51_VUQZR%2FSmile_3-09_039_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F51_VUQZR%2FSmile_3-09_040_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F51_VUQZR%2FSmile_3-09_041_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
: Chibi Chibi instructs Moon to destroy the Galaxy Cordon in order to destroy Chaos; because of the bloodshed and destruction form the future battle with Sailor Chaos she believes this is what she should have done in the 21st century!
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F51_VUQZR%2FSmile_3-09_042_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F51_VUQZR%2FSmile_3-09_043_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F51_VUQZR%2FSmile_3-09_044_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F51_VUQZR%2FSmile_3-09_047_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F51_VUQZR%2FSmile_3-09_048_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
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↑ Chibi Chibi is reminded by Moon that there will always be light and darkness, whether they destroy the Cordon or not. Moon has lost everything, and everyone the same way Cosmos has. but she still refuses to give up Hope. It becomes definite that Moon will not destroy it, therefore Chibi Chibi reverts to Cosmos. Notice how right before she gains her Cosmos dressing, she appears as an angel, identical to Moon when she sacrifices herself.
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F51_VUQZR%2FSmile_3-09_050_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
By seeing Sailor Moon continue to save everyone, even with nothing to fight for left, it helped her
realize she could handle Sailor Chaos in the future.

http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F52_RVNFH%2FSmile_3-10_017_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F52_RVNFH%2FSmile_3-10_018_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F52_RVNFH%2FSmile_3-10_019_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F52_RVNFH%2FSmile_3-10_020_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F52_RVNFH%2FSmile_3-10_021_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
↑ She clearly states that she is Usagi!!!!
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F52_RVNFH%2FSmile_3-10_022_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F52_RVNFH%2FSmile_3-10_023_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
↑ It's almost as if Cosmos had forgotten how bad this battle had been and what she had lost in the 21st century. Watching it re-enacted before her helped her to regain that power . . .
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F52_RVNFH%2FSmile_3-10_024_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
↑ Having re-learned the lesson she once did as Sailor Moon, she can return to the future to finish the battle with Sailor Chaos, knowing that even if she does lose everything, she still has the ability to save everyone, because where darkness exists so does light.
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4.Gaurdian Cosmos
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When the guardians are shown for each Senshi, the small individual only speaks to their associated Senshi. In the Cordon, this small person ONLY speaks to Moon, therefore THIS could be her guardian!
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F52_RVNFH%2FSmile_3-10_033_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
http://i04.animea.net/2108%2F52_RVNFH%2FSmile_3-10_034_%28Sailor_Moon%29.jpg
↑ Guardian Cosmos is referring to Princess Serenity. The image in the centre of the page is Queen Serenity with Baby Princess Serenity (this was shown in the last story arc during the battle with Nephernia).
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It's 3 in the morning now, and I'm starting to doze off, so I guess I'll wrap up. In the end, I can't say officially that Cosmos is Sailor
Moon, but I believe there's a lot of evidence to back that thought up. If I come across anymore points I'll add them, but for now I hope I've at least provided some valuable food for thought.


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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   29th September 2012, 4:29 am

Ah, I wanted somebody to up this topic for ages \o/ The biggest mystery of the sailor moon universe. Takeuchi herself said she wanted the character to be ambigous to everybody, even herself. So I don't think there is such a thing as a "correct answer" in this debate.

I saw many headcanons: Her being the human form of a far future Silver Crystal (Most original one I've seen), Her being Usagi in an alternative future (The one many people, including myself, like to belive), her being Kousagi (Seriously; Internet, SHE ISN'T EVEN CANON. She fits nowhere in the story! I'd rather believe Sailor Oppositio Moon / Sin is Cosmos than a lame Chibiusa rip-off.)

So, my headcanon isn't really anything original: I just believe Cosmos is Usagi, but from the same future as Crystal Tokyo. Only like some billions years after. (Remember what Mamoru said during the wedding? Sailor Moon will continue living even after all of them died) So Cosmos ran away to the past in order to ask Sailor Moon to destroy the Galaxy Cauldron because, herself, when she was Sailor Moon, was "too much of a coward" to do so. Usagi repeated this mistake. Cosmos realised she knew you can't change the past like that, and that Sailor Moon at this moment was more couragous facing Chaos once it's reincarnated than Cosmos, tired of this endless war, was.

...Alright, this is a bit non-sensical.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   11th November 2012, 7:40 am

I like to entertain the theory that the Silver Moon Crystal kept evolving, just like it had been evolving through the entire series, until it simply did not need a human form anymore. After one of Neo Queen's Serenity descendant's passed, it had gotten so powerful and developed that it could be on its own.

Since the Silver Moon Crystal was the most powerful star seed in the galaxy when the series were happening, I suppose it's safe to assume that it could have become the most powerful star seed in the entire universe, thus also becoming its protector.

But there is still the question of "when?" Eventually, Crystal Tokyo would fall, perhaps a Crystal Tokyo not ruled by Serenity and Endymion, but a utopia ruled by Chibi Usa and Helios (I suppose they were to be married.), simply for balance reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   15th November 2012, 11:03 am

I always believe that Sailor Cosmos was the ultimate form of Sailor Moon as well but just a different entity as someone already pointed it out.


What I don't understand is why people want to find something that's not there? o.O


It is what it is, and even Naoko screwed up the time line in the manga several times, When chibi usa arrives in the past and then takes the present SM to the Future Crystal Tokyo, they are greeted by King Endimion and he tells them that when Usagi tuns 22 she takes the throne and gives birth to chibi usa a year later and live for 1000 years bla bla bla we all know that, but in the stars act, Sailor Moon dies and is REBORN in the future, so the future DID change but just the part of her being Queen didn't.


So I believe that even Naoko was not able to keep up with her original story herself, and it happens with a lot of Mangakas... Akira Toriyama is a great example (Dragon Ball creator) he made so many changes to the time line that I think he didn't even bother to remember what actually happened and just made something up for fans to just open threads like these ones and have at it XD


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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   15th November 2012, 4:49 pm

I'm with the school of that that is someone from the Earth-Moon Bloondline (hey remember when Tux contributed DNA here..?), but is also a reincarnation of Usagi in the far off future. Or, better yet, an alternative future.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   15th November 2012, 8:38 pm

I don't believe that she comes from an alternative reality because she would have no reason to destroy another Cauldron's dimension.
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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   15th November 2012, 8:58 pm

@Guardian Zero wrote:
I don't believe that she comes from an alternative reality because she would have no reason to destroy another Cauldron's dimension.

Actually, i believe the Cauldron exists outside of time and Space. Basically, it can exist outside of all that- so there's not a 'another 'Cauldorn, but only one. It's just that people come there at different times.

Though, honest, it COULD be an alternate reality because remember that time is not linear and there's multiple time streams where there are things that did and also did not happen. It's like you decide to wear red shirt today, but in that same instance there's a timeline where you pick the blue shirt instead and so on and so forth.

Cosmos travelled back to the point before her reality and the canon one we know splintered off into two different ones. (Bearing in mind if we go with the idea she's either a reincarnation of Usagi/or Usagi's far flung future self.) So yeah, she would have a reason to want to destroy it because it's the same Cauldron and same place where SHE (cosmos) made the decision to run away. Instead of where She (eternal Moon) made the decision to continue fighting with other sailor crystals.

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   15th November 2012, 9:22 pm

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@Guardian Zero wrote:
Though, honest, it COULD be an alternate reality because remember that time is not linear and there's multiple time streams where there are things that did and also did not happen. It's like you decide to wear red shirt today, but in that same instance there's a timeline where you pick the blue shirt instead and so on and so forth.

Time travel in Sailor Moon is really wonky when you think about it. It adopts from both the multiple time stream and linear time stream. Because the future would feel disturbances in the past. For example in the Nehellenia Stars arc, Chibi Usa disappears when Mamoru is brainwashed. If there were multiple time streams and they were created whenever Chibi Usa time travelled, wouldn't Chibi-Usa not have faded? The time line she's in wouldn't affect her future. It would affect the current Usagi and Mamoru's future. Kind of like how it happened in DBZ with Trunks. But then we have things like Cosmos and etc. where it could be that the canon split.

I think when it comes to time travel, Naoko didn't even really think it out (as this point was made in an earlier post) and was making up things as she went along. Bummer really!

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PostSubject: Re: [Theory] Who is Sailor Cosmos?   15th November 2012, 9:41 pm

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@Guardian Zero wrote:
Though, honest, it COULD be an alternate reality because remember that time is not linear and there's multiple time streams where there are things that did and also did not happen. It's like you decide to wear red shirt today, but in that same instance there's a timeline where you pick the blue shirt instead and so on and so forth.

Time travel in Sailor Moon is really wonky when you think about it. It adopts from both the multiple time stream and linear time stream. Because the future would feel disturbances in the past. For example in the Nehellenia Stars arc, Chibi Usa disappears when Mamoru is brainwashed. If there were multiple time streams and they were created whenever Chibi Usa time travelled, wouldn't Chibi-Usa not have faded? The time line she's in wouldn't affect her future. It would affect the current Usagi and Mamoru's future. Kind of like how it happened in DBZ with Trunks. But then we have things like Cosmos and etc. where it could be that the canon split.

I think when it comes to time travel, Naoko didn't even really think it out (as this point was made in an earlier post) and was making up things as she went along. Bummer really!

Though, I thought some where, someone said that she mentioned (bearing in mind it was years ago) that the Death Busters appeared is actually a direct result of Chibiusa traveling back through time the first time (or was it the second?).
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