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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:48 am

Solo seems to be claiming that this Finn guy is Mafia. However we have no reason to trust him, as my daughter here said. Could it be that he is Mafia and is trying to pin the blame on an innocent person?

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:31 am

Okay let's go:

There is of course the possibility that I am a Mafiosi and I am trying to frame Finn. But to rule this out, I am asking for other Cop claims. If there are no other Copclaims, I am a confirmed Cop. If I'd be fake, the real Cop would have no reason not to counterclaim. So please everyone: State if you're cop or not, instead of noticing the possibility that I could be Mafia.

Other than that, please don't Lynch early. We have 48 hours to Lynch and we should use them. We can gain information and reads and shouldn't just waste the Time and possibly lose the Game because of an early Lynch. Beside that, if there are other copclaims, we should not lynch today, since we are in a Mislynch or Lose with a 4:2. If we lynch it would be 3:2 and the Mafia would win after the night. (I'm not hoping for random Doc Protects.) If we don't Lynch, we would be in a Lynch or Lose with a 3:2 tomorrow and have more Copreports. If there are no other copclaims and I tell you to, we should lynch Sailor Jupiter.

The Doctor should NOT claim today. Since he can't protect himself, he would be a free kill target for the Mafia. But he can claim on Day 2, since it is a Lynch or Lose anyway and he could bring the Mafia to either counterclaim, or let him be confirmed. The same goes for the 2 remaining Villagers. If one of them dies the next night, the other one would be the last Villager remaining, making his role unique. Therefore if he and the Doc claim at Day 2 in that Scenario, the Mafia would have 3 Unique Roles to cover, with 2 people, leaving one person confirmed.

I think I have everything covered so far. If you have any thoughts, please tell me them. Other than that, everybody please state if they're Cop or not.


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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:42 am

I am not the cop.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:44 am

Hm, well, while I'm fishy of an early cop claim..I definitely don't think a mafiosi would try to fakeclaim cop right off the bat either, it would easily draw suspicion to them (as its already done for you Kai) and would be a challenge to get everyone off your back unless if we lynched Jupiter and it proved you were right.

As this is day one and there isn't much to go off of asides from Kai's immediate copclaim of Jupiter, which I am going to be hesitant to believe for now and see if anyone else claims cop, I will go ahead and say that I am not cop. I've got no leads on where to start, asides from Kai.

(also I'm sorry i can't keep up with who is who as far as the characters go and i'm going by username, its just too confusing).

Looking at the other posts since Day 1 started, Zelda has already tried to twist Kai's claim and get us to think he's mafia right off the bad. It's a legitimate concern and now Kai has clearly explained himself, but something to think about.

Cosmos says that in character Solo(Kai) isn't the truthful person but we all know that character roles =/= alignment as that's been clearly made in the rule. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this to be the first game we've all had a chance to experience playing with Kai. We don't really know what to expect just yet (other than we know of his previous extensive mafia experience xD).


And thats all who has posted so far (asides from now me) and I'll wait to hear out Jupiter and everyone else's thoughts. As Kai said we have 48 hours, lets use them.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:50 am

Here, I'll make a list of who is what Charater.

Cosmos-Hime, Leia
Sailor Zelda, Darth Vader
Sailor Jupiter, Finn
Small Lady, Luke
MotokiDoki, Rey
Kai, Han Solo

and Venus was Kylo but maifa got her.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:34 pm

Not entirely sure where you're going with this Han(kai), but fine. I'll play along.

I am not the cop.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:10 pm

MAFIA! >.>!!!!!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:47 pm

Less then 24 hours to vote.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:53 am

Okay, some people better start talking, otherwise things will go no lunch and we'll get nowhere.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:53 am

*lynch. We'll go no lynch.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:11 am

Well...there is an inactivity rule...but I'd hate for the game to essentially get cut short cause of it.

Also in the words if Jar Jar "Ooooh isa someone gunna die Ani?"

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:21 am

Jupiter and Motoki still need to tell us if they're claiming Cop or not. If they haven't claimed by the end of the day, we will no Lynch because I would not be confirmed. This way I can get a second report. Other than that, the doc should decide for himself, who he wants to protect this night.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:22 am

less then 12 hours.

"mmmm, voted yet they have not. bad idea that is" yoda said.


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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:52 pm

(Sorry, I've been very busy with work and apartment searching with Jupiter. I wish I had more time to type this, actually at work now lol)

Kai is very likely a mafia member trying to quickly figure out who the cop is so he can kill them off.

I am the real cop. If the doctor protects me and we vote for Kai I can almost guarantee we can start the next day not only with a cop, but also one mafia down.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:14 pm

Hm ok...if you are the cop and not Kai, is it possible for you to reveal your findings from last night?

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:38 pm

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Okay let's go:

There is of course the possibility that I am a Mafiosi and I am trying to frame Finn. But to rule this out, I am asking for other Cop claims. If there are no other Copclaims, I am a confirmed Cop. If I'd be fake, the real Cop would have no reason not to counterclaim. So please everyone: State if you're cop or not, instead of noticing the possibility that I could be Mafia.

Other than that, please don't Lynch early. We have 48 hours to Lynch and we should use them. We can gain information and reads and shouldn't just waste the Time and possibly lose the Game because of an early Lynch. Beside that, if there are other copclaims, we should not lynch today, since we are in a Mislynch or Lose with a 4:2. If we lynch it would be 3:2 and the Mafia would win after the night. (I'm not hoping for random Doc Protects.) If we don't Lynch, we would be in a Lynch or Lose with a 3:2 tomorrow and have more Copreports. If there are no other copclaims and I tell you to, we should lynch Sailor Jupiter.

The Doctor should NOT claim today. Since he can't protect himself, he would be a free kill target for the Mafia. But he can claim on Day 2, since it is a Lynch or Lose anyway and he could bring the Mafia to either counterclaim, or let him be confirmed. The same goes for the 2 remaining Villagers. If one of them dies the next night, the other one would be the last Villager remaining, making his role unique. Therefore if he and the Doc claim at Day 2 in that Scenario, the Mafia would have 3 Unique Roles to cover, with 2 people, leaving one person confirmed.

I think I have everything covered so far. If you have any thoughts, please tell me them. Other than that, everybody please state if they're Cop or not.


Everyone watch in awe as the Mafia sets up a game that only it can win! I'm calling super ultra mega BS on this. The real cop has every reason not to counter claim if you are mafia because the mafia will then attempt to kill them. They can hope that the doctor protects them but that leaves other townies open to being killed by the mafia as you use the cop to move the doctor's attention away from protecting townies or themselves, leaving them vulnerable to a hit as well. You're setting up a false dichotomy. You're not the ruler of this game and there is no reason for anyone to play along with this made up cop-or-not scenario you've just produced.

P.S. My favorite part of this was your first post on Day 1 where you claim to be the cop... and then ask everyone to "confirm" if they are cop or not. You don't need to do that if you're the cop because then you would know who the cop is you baka.


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Hm, well, while I'm fishy of an early cop claim..I definitely don't think a mafiosi would try to fakeclaim cop right off the bat either, it would easily draw suspicion to them (as its already done for you Kai) and would be a challenge to get everyone off your back unless if we lynched Jupiter and it proved you were right.

As this is day one and there isn't much to go off of asides from Kai's immediate copclaim of Jupiter, which I am going to be hesitant to believe for now and see if anyone else claims cop, I will go ahead and say that I am not cop.  I've got no leads on where to start, asides from Kai.

(also I'm sorry i can't keep up with who is who as far as the characters go and i'm going by username, its just too confusing).  

Looking at the other posts since Day 1 started, Zelda has already tried to twist Kai's claim and get us to think he's mafia right off the bad. It's a legitimate concern and now Kai has clearly explained himself, but something to think about.

Cosmos says that in character Solo(Kai) isn't the truthful person but we all know that character roles =/= alignment as that's been clearly made in the rule. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this to be the first game we've all had a chance to experience playing with Kai. We don't really know what to expect just yet (other than we know of his previous extensive mafia experience xD).


And thats all who has posted so far (asides from now me) and I'll wait to hear out Jupiter and everyone else's thoughts. As Kai said we have 48 hours, lets use them.

Really? You find this suspicious and then immediately agree to the plan? I smell Mafiosa #2.

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Jupiter and Motoki still need to tell us if they're claiming Cop or not. If they haven't claimed by the end of the day, we will no Lynch because I would not be confirmed. This way I can get a second report. Other than that, the doc should decide for himself, who he wants to protect this night.

Well, it seems Motoki claimed. GOOD JOB on your super cunning plan -rolls eyes- Let me remind everyone that mafia needs to only kill two more players for them to win. Who would want you not to lynch anyone? Oh, that's right, the mafia, the people who would likely win next round if you don't lynch anyone. They'll kill a townie this night phase and then next round EVEN IF we manage to lynch one of them, they still win. To agree at this point would be to hand the mafia a victory.

I am heavily suspicious of Kai.
Vote to lynch Kai

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Hm ok...if you are the cop and not Kai, is it possible for you to reveal your findings from last night?

It doesn't matter what either of them say since we can't truly trust either of them? I'm completely skeptical of this intricate back-and-forth you and Kai have going. Not only does it seem scripted, if you are both mafia it stacks the deck in your favor far too well. If Kai turns out to be mafia, you can bet I'm lynching your butt next too. Don't be surprised if this results in myself or Motoki dying, townies.
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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:30 pm

ANYWAY I'm going to take a nap/possibly fall asleep irl for the day rn, but basically at this point, if any of the four of us (myself, Motoki, Small Lady or Kai) die, it will confirm who is mafia and who is not, so maybe mafia will hunt down Cosmos or Zelda and doc should protect them? Idk. Imo the best way to pull off a town win is to lynch Kai for the reasons above, so I stand by my decision and am going to nap!
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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:53 pm

N1 5:2
Townie Dies
D1 4:2 -> Mislynch or Lose
No Lynch
N2 4:2
Townie Dies
D2 3:2 -> LYLO
Mafia Dies
N3 3:1
Townie Dies
D3 2:1 -> LYLO

You see that lynching today would be stupid since a Docprotect is very unlikely. Tomorrow we have a second report and you now what the best part is? We will have a confirmed report ^___^. I am hereby retracting my Copclaim! I am not the Cop. Since there are no other claims, Motoki is the confirmed Cop, therefore the Doctor should protect him this night

The reasons for my Claim should be obvious. I wanted to force a Claim, since it is a important. This way we either force the Mafia to a Counterclaim, or get a confirmed Cop. If the Mafia counterclaim, they will not be able to kill the cop anyway, since they would reveal one of their members. If Cop is not counterclaimed, he will be confirmed and protected by the doc anyway. Your reasoning that the Doc cannot protect anyone else doesn't make sense. He is unable to protect himself and it would make no sense to protect a Townie. Sure we would maybe get a luck docprotect if the doc protects a random target, but have also the chance that we lose the cop. While we would be in the same situation without a cop, we would have gained very much with a cop and 2 reports on day 2.
Another reason I claimed, was to confuse the Mafia with 2 quick copclaims. While Motoki took some time to claim, the Mafia did not counterclaim anyway.

So you guys see that lynching me today would bring us nothing. Motoki can feel free to check me in the next night. This way I would be a confirmed inno and could help him lead. Other than that: Motoki please do not out your report if you have an inno today. The inno would most likely be killed off this night. If you have a guilty feel free to do that.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:03 pm

Han Solo (Kai):  Jupiter

No Lynch: Kai

with 6 it takes 4 to lynch.  You guys have 4 Hours left to vote.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:08 pm

While Jupiter is not guilty by report I am still calling a FOS on her. While a Townie would KNOW that I have to be fake, because the guilty report on her couldn't be real, she never defended herself with that reason. Instead she was just trying to to push a Lynch onto me, which looks like a act of despair.

This is just a thought of mine, so please don't take her being Mafia for granted with this. This is just a thing to consider when we have to rely on reads.

Also something I forgot to mention was that I actually hope for another Villager to die, instead of a chance of one being protected. This way we have 3 Unique Town Roles (1 Villager, 1 Doc, 1 Cop) making them all able to be claimed. If a Villager dies this night, please let everybody claim before you out your reports Motoki. This way the Mafia isn't able to adjust their counterclaims so they don't counterclaim a confirmed inno. If you out your reports after everybody has claimed their role, it is very likely that we get a Mafia out of it.


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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:24 pm

I'd have to agree with Han(kai) On this. If Han is innocent, motokidoki is innocent and I'm innocent, that's three people off the bat. That leaves Vadar(zelda),Luke (small lady), and Finn(jupiter) as possible mafia members. There are only two mafia, so one of you is innocent. If one of those three die tonight, the remaining two are clearly the mafia. If Han(kai) or I die tonight, it would still farther prove my hypothesis that two of these three are the mafia-as we would have been killed due to our findings. And the only reason I don't count Rey(motokidoki) in this is because through Hans(kais) clever ruse, the doctor is most likely to protect him.

all this being said I vote for a no lynch as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:14 pm

Han Solo (Kai): Jupiter

No Lynch: Kai, Cosmo

with 6 it takes 4 to lynch. You guys have 3 Hours left to vote

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:22 pm

with 3 hours left and no lynch being beneficial for us to win anyway, i vote no lynch

(I'll have to come back and argue your comments later Jupiter, got a busy night tonight xD)

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:25 pm

Eh, I suppose I'll go No Lynch.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:07 pm

Okay, idiots. Since this is turning into a moron sandwich: I am the real cop. Motoki covered/diverted and tried to get the mafia's attention. I investigated Small Lady last night and she is mafia. By association, I assume Kai is mafia since they're 100% in it to win it together just looking at their posts.

A no lynch is beneficial to the mafia and both Kai and Small Lady are pushing you to no lynch. It's pretty simple to see the solution here. Kai JUST SAID he wants a townie to die. This is some incredible, Grade A bandwagoning. There is almost no situation where a no lynch is a good idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:12 pm

>I am the real cop. Motoki covered/diverted and tried to get the mafia's attention.
>No private Communication allowed

HOW DO YOU KNOW HE DID THAT?

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:14 pm

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>I am the real cop. Motoki covered/diverted and tried to get the mafia's attention.
>No private Communication allowed

HOW DO YOU KNOW HE DID THAT?

Because it's clear to me that you're mafia after I invesigated Brit, so what other reason would he have other than trying to protect the real cop (who is me)?

Now that we're done distracting from relevant issues:

I'd also like to point out that myself, Motoki, Brit or Kai dying, as I said earlier gives validity to our statements or disproves them. OF COURSE the mafia doesn't want you to do it. Then you'd see who's lying. I'm serious, lynch Kai.
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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:14 pm

Han Solo (Kai): Jupiter

No Lynch: Kai, Zelda, Small Lady, Cosmos.

with 6 it takes 4 to lynch. You guys have 2 Hours left to vote.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:18 pm

I can't Count right.  with Majority Reached. the Day Ends. Stand by for a scene

No one could agree on who to vote out. having a few people who were hot-headed did not help the discussion. Obi won and Yoda just watched everyone yell at each other.

"I was hoping we would get somewhere, we do have some of the brightest minds here" Obi won said. "ahh, but forgotten you have, many of them, hot-headed they are" Yoda replied.

Everyone put it to a vote, and the majority won. No one was voted off.

Night 2 Starts. you have 24 hours to send in your Actions.

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PostSubject: Re: Star Wars Mafia townies win!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:19 pm

Can you tell me why you claim Cop now, after you said it is stupid to claim today and that I am just fishing for Claims? Also wouldn't it be weird to have Motoki trying to protect you and now all of a sudden you just claim.

Other than that, I explained why a No Lynch is the best option today. Could you explain to us why it would be beneficial to the Mafia?

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