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PostSubject: Theory: Time Loops In Black Moon Arc   15th July 2012, 11:18 am

This thread has spoilers for the end of the Black Moon arc so don't read if you don't want to be spoiled. But at the end of the Black Moon arc, Chibi-usa returns to the past and gives Usagi her Spiral Heart Moon Rod and broach which gives her her new powers she needs to defeat the Death Busters in the Infinity arc. But if Usagi couldn't beat the Death Busters without the Spiral Heart Moon Rod. how would she have been able to beat them the first time before Chibi-usa time traveled to the past? So if Chibi-usa didn't time travel, Usagi wouldn't have gotten the rod and she would have been killed and Chibi-usa wouldn't have been born, but because Usagi beat them, Chibi-usa was born to help her beat them? I don't know if I'm making sense, but in the anime they made this easier since Usagi got her S powers independently from Chibi-usa.
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PostSubject: Re: Theory: Time Loops In Black Moon Arc   15th July 2012, 11:23 am

Well, I believe that time is like a river and never flows the same way twice, although it may be similar. An event may cause a ripple that causes little distortions or alters the entire course of the river.

We do not necessarily know that the Crystal Tokyo we saw was created in the same way or experienced the same events that are in Usagi's future.

Or you could see time as cyclical, with the same events repeating. In such case, the events leading to the Spiral Heart Moon Rod repeat over and over again (and Neo-Queen Serenity knows how she must act in order to ensure that the same events happen again).

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: Time Loops In Black Moon Arc   15th July 2012, 11:27 am

Amazing points! Lol, I've often gone "Um... O.o *headscratch*" at that part in the manga! But then, if the first time around NQS didn't face the Black Moon Clan and Chibi-Usa didn't help her, maybe her time as Sailor Moon was spent defeating a different enemy and her own Moon Sceptre (still made by the love between her and Mamoru/Endymion) evolved by itself into the Spiral Heart Moon Sceptre.

Since our Usagi's Moon Sceptre was destroyed in the battle against Nemesis, her sceptre was unable to evolve, and NQS had to send her a replacement in order to fix the time hole that would have been created through a lack of Moon Sceptre.

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: Time Loops In Black Moon Arc   15th July 2012, 11:47 am

Interesting topic Neon Genesis! Would you mind though editing the title of this thread and including either 'theory' or 'debate' for me? That way people know which it is Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: Time Loops In Black Moon Arc   15th July 2012, 11:10 pm

Sailor Venus wrote:
Well, I believe that time is like a river and never flows the same way twice, although it may be similar. An event may cause a ripple that causes little distortions or alters the entire course of the river.

We do not necessarily know that the Crystal Tokyo we saw was created in the same way or experienced the same events that are in Usagi's future.

I thought of that at first too. Like maybe there was some other event that occurred that allowed Usagi to make the weapons upgrade but that explanation just seems too easy to me if you know what I mean. This time loop thing reminds me of the whole grandfather paradox in time travel.
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