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PostSubject: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   21st July 2012, 7:46 pm

I love the ending to the Nehelina arc in Sailor Stars. I think it's one of the most bittersweet finales in the anime but I'm still confused by what Usagi actually did to Nehelina. Did Usagi send her back in time to her childhood? Was she reborn as a child and allowed to start over again? Did Usagi send her into an illusion or something?
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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   21st July 2012, 8:15 pm

Ooo. I'm curious to if Lust will come and share his two cents XD

I think...either Nehelenia was reborn or she fell into a sleep where she'd have happy dreams of living out a new life that way, starting from her childhood. I don't know if Usagi has quite that kind of power to where she could have someone be reborn, but I suppose anything is possible. But since I'm not sure if she has that kind of power, I want to say that Nehelenia was placed into a dream of a happy, new life (plus the season focused around dreams so it may have been this too to keep with the trend).

This is actually an interesting question.

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   22nd July 2012, 11:54 am

IIRC, they mention her having new start, so I don't see the gave her an illusion (which would seem as kind of brainwashing). And Usagi's power was not enough for it - they all had to join powers.

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   23rd July 2012, 7:25 pm

I believe she was reborn in an alternate dimension.

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   23rd July 2012, 8:07 pm

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Ooo. I'm curious to if Lust will come and share his two cents XD

I think...either Nehelenia was reborn or she fell into a sleep where she'd have happy dreams of living out a new life that way, starting from her childhood. I don't know if Usagi has quite that kind of power to where she could have someone be reborn, but I suppose anything is possible. But since I'm not sure if she has that kind of power, I want to say that Nehelenia was placed into a dream of a happy, new life (plus the season focused around dreams so it may have been this too to keep with the trend).

This is actually an interesting question.
Usagi did have the power to transmigrate herself and her friends by wishing on the Silver Crystal at the end of the first season so they could start their lives over as normal girls. If it that was possible for Usagi back then, I don't think it's outside the realms of possiblity that she could reincarnate Nehehelina in Supers with her new upgraded powers. But the scene where Nehelenia wakes up in her castle seems to have a dreamlike quality to it too.
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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   24th July 2012, 6:56 pm

I like the idea of her being reborn, though I don't really see Usagi having that power; at least not at that part of her life (if ever).

I would think the "illusion" though would maybe be by Nehelenia herself? (Or maybe with Usagi's help.)
It would be her chance to rethink her life or to go over it again, on her way to the Galaxy Cauldron, so she would know how to live a better life.

This also makes me think of Neo-Queen Serenity's power to 'purify' people. Where as here all Usagi can simply do is teach her how to live a better life and send her to be reborn, as well maybe Neo-Queen Serenity can have to power to do so without that person being reborn.
Though if it where me, I would rather be reborn so I wouldn't still have the regret of whatever I had done before she purified me, because others would still see you for what you had done.
Though if they are purified or truly pure in life, they would over look it and accept you anyway? .___.'
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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   24th July 2012, 7:00 pm

I might be wrong about this, but didn't Usagi give Hotaru a new life as a baby at the end of S? So why couldn't she do it with Nehelina as Eternal Sailor Moon?

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   24th July 2012, 11:50 pm

No. Hotaru is the solider of like death and resurrection I believe. So she'll always be reborn when she dies. At least, that's what I've known her as, aside from the solider of ruin.

I still don't believe Usagi has that kind of power. She isn't god or an actual goddess (but her being a goddess is open to debate).

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   25th July 2012, 12:19 am

If I remember correctly, after what happened from the first season, the silver crystal isn't as powerful as it used to be. As the series continued, the crystal became less important and kind of intertwined into other things such as her pure heart and star seed.

My opinion is that instead of being sealed into darkness like before, she was sealed into something else. At the end of the fourth season, Nehelenia is risen into the New Moon. At the end of her arc in the fifth season, she is risen once again into the moon, except this time it's full. For Nehelenia to be reborn is kind of silly to me since if that was so, history would change. As Lady Tuxedo mentioned earlier, I believe she was taken into more of a dream like state to relive her life over again. Nehelenia chased after people's beautiful dreams and the Sailor Senshi helped her regain her own beautiful dreams once more. I'd say it's more of an imaginary life she gets to relive all over again to get her second chance.

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   25th July 2012, 1:12 am

Personally I just believe Nehelenia and her Court were sent home, where they all just started their history from where it was shown. Though they believed no time had passed, not really a dream. Everything still happened. However they were now made unaware of the what had passed.

Why should only Nehelenia get a happy dream? What about the rest of her court? I mean we really do not know what happens when they're Moon Gorgeous Meditated.

Apparently Usagi does have some resurrection powers... or else how did NeoQueen Serenity bring back Pluto in the Black Moon arc of the manga and musicals?

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   25th July 2012, 9:47 am

I feel like Sailor Pluto is an entirely separate case...because she is the Soldier of Time. Since she deals with time, I feel like there is a complex time paradox involved with her. Just like since Chibiusa time travels, there's probably a complex time paradox involved with her too. Messy subject.

And the only reason it was brought up of just Nehelenia I think is because that's all that was shown. Even if it was only a little detail, they only showed what happened to Nehelenia after, not anybody else. We don't even know what happened to like Hawks Eye, Fish Eye and Tigers Eye. They get their own dream mirrors and turn into humans, but then they turn into orbs of light and disappear with Helios. Nothing else is expanded upon beyond that with them. Nehelenia was at least shown waking up again as a child with all of her subjects surrounding her. We just don't know exactly what that was; if she was reborn, if she's in an eternal happy dream, if she was sent to an alternate dimension, or if she was sent back in time.

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   25th July 2012, 8:59 pm

I'm talking about Pluto in the manga/myu, not in the anime ^^ her revival was due to NQS there.

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PostSubject: Re: Theory: The Nehelina Arc Finale   25th July 2012, 10:26 pm

Ah okay XD well then. I have no idea. I still say there's time paradoxes surrounding those two characters though. ^^;

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