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PostSubject: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 9:00 pm

Okay so ever since I started college I have slowly stopped watching a lot anime (this also applies to manga too). I tend to stick to the animes that I have watched in the past than watch new shows. However I have enjoyed recent animes like K-on! and Maid-sama which I need to finish badly. Also my love for video games has grown tremendously. So my question is why is this? Is it because I have out grown anime and have move on to the video gaming world? Or is it because today's anime has nothing to offer?

The more I think it I think about it anime has nothing to offer anymore. Today a lot ideas are being reused and there's lot of fanservice. I mean seriously I can watch show without looking at some girl's panty shot? Oh, there's reboots. A lot old animes are getting rebooted (I'm not complaining about the FMA: Brotherhood and the new Sailor Moon anime). Okay, I shouldn't say a lot because I don't know the number, but recently a lot of non animes TV shows are getting reboots. I feel like it's happening in the anime world as well. It's just I don't get excited about finding a new anime anymore. Like for example back in high school I was huge fan of the magical girl genre. Today none of the new magical girl series (besides the new sailor moon) interest me.

Any thoughts? Does anyone feel the same way?

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 9:14 pm

I've also asked myself the same question before. My liking of anime and manga came to a peak when I was in 5th grade at the age of 10. That was 10 years ago in 2002. From there my interest in anime and manga came to a halt and just recently it's picked up again. With the re-release of the Sailor Moon manga and other anime/manga that use to be popular (Cardcaptor Sakura, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Ghibli films) I feel like I've come to like anime/manga a bit more but I'm sure once these re-releases are over that there won't be much to take interest in. I do believe that older anime and manga are better than the recent anime/manga that has come out.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 9:18 pm

I completely agree with you yami! The only anime I even care about anymore is sailor moon and it was my favorite from the beginning. It's the only manga I currently collect besides Arisa. This newer stuff doesn't hook me in.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 9:25 pm

@ Roro

I totally agree, Roro. The older anime is a lot better. It's like how 90 cartoons are better than today's cartoons here in the US. I have a feeling that the new sailor moon will peak my interest again. Sailor Moon was my first anime.

I really want to still be into anime. It was huge part of my life growing up. It inspire me to write and have fun roleplays with my friends. It's just new animes are uninteresting and there are certain animes that sound interesting, but are way too long. Like Bleach for example. I love the idea for Bleach, but both the manga and the anime are way too long.

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Yeah I feel the same. Sailor Moon and few other oldies are the only ones I care about anymore. The relunch of the Sailor Moon manga got me back into reading manga. I picked up the Sailor V manga and the Phoenix Wright manga series.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 9:40 pm

*raises hand* I lived in a small town when I went to high school, but my Nerds and I had an anime club so I was introduced to a lot of different shows, some I followed through with, others I just watched when someone got to choose the next series.

But... when I went to college, despite their having a huge anime club, I kinda... didn't watch anything. I think I started Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicles, and Rumbling Hearts off of youtube, and then Hulu started carrying anime so I watched all of NaNa (and CRIEEEED!) and Ghost Stories (and laughed 'til I couldn't breathe), and eventually Modoka, but other that those... yeah, nothing. *shrug*


I think it's that when you get to college, your life opens up in so many different ways. There are so many other ways to stimulate your mind and amuse yourself, so anime hits the back burner for some.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 9:45 pm

Yami: Late 80's and early 90's anime is absolutely the best. It just doesn't compare to what's currently being shown. Perhaps those who are growing up with the current anime that is being shown will be asking themselves the same question 10 years from now as well.

Uranus: I also agree that anime takes a back burner especially when school picks up. It's usually when's school is out or about to end or begin that I usually end up watching something.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 9:55 pm

Even though I'm one of the youngest people in this forum, I have to agree...I really have no urge to even give new anime/manga a chance...I just don't see what makes it special...I mean I'm picky with what I watch and read. I think the 80's and 90's had the best manga/anime.

@Uranus-NANA!!!! I started a thread about it a while back..you should come visit :3 have you read the manga? I shed tears at the end because, the anime doesn't go all the way to the end sadly. It kinda cuts off.


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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 10:22 pm

I feel the same way as you guys. I have only a few series that I buy/watch and SM is the number one of them. All these panty shot animes nowadays... I just cannot stand them. Admitted, Sailor Moon's Daimons etc. had their little fan service things but showing panties and bouncing breasts etc. just feels wrong and so stupid O___O (my opinion)

I haven't even watched that kind of anime but when you occasionally see articles written of 'panty shots, fan service' etc. and browsing the internet you see manga covers like Cage of Eden (which is nowadays small fan service...) I don't think I really have to see more to say this.

And all those reused ideas make me crazy. I certainly feel like anime has nothing to offer anymore.

Older series are so much better but in most cases reboots might ruin the anime ( I am NOT talking about SM's new anime) I just think that older series have much more to offer. 80's and 90's anime rule Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 10:47 pm

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I feel the same. I have only a few series that I buy/watch and SM is the number one of them. All these panty shot animes nowadays... I just cannot stand them. Admitted, Sailor Moon's Daimons etc. had their little fan service things but showing panties and bouncing breasts etc. just feels wrong and so stupid O___O (my opinion)

I haven't even watched that kind of anime but when you occasionally see articles written of 'panty shots, fan service' etc. and browsing the internet you see manga covers like Cage of Eden (which is nowadays small fan service...) I don't think I really have to see more to say this.

And all those reused ideas make me crazy. I certainly feel like anime has nothing to offer anymore.

Older series are so much better but in most cases reboots might ruin the anime ( I am NOT talking about SM's new anime) I just think that older series have much more to offer. 80's and 90's anime rule Smile

I couldn't agree more! It's either panties and boobs or bloody violence...:/ I mean depending on the series..a little blood is alright..it keeps it realistic in some cases...but some stuff I've seen...mere clips of, is just ridiculous...but that's my opinion...it's what's popular I guess :/

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 10:56 pm

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I couldn't agree more! It's either panties and boobs or bloody violence...:/ I mean depending on the series..a little blood is alright..it keeps it realistic in some cases...but some stuff I've seen...mere clips of, is just ridiculous...but that's my opinion...it's what's popular I guess :/

I certainly agree with you Lexi! And sometimes it's fan service and bloody violence at the same time... -___-
No wonder why I think anime has nothing to offer anymore. Maybe those kinds of series are popular but I just think they are ridiculous.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 11:01 pm

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Lovely Lexi wrote:

I couldn't agree more! It's either panties and boobs or bloody violence...:/ I mean depending on the series..a little blood is alright..it keeps it realistic in some cases...but some stuff I've seen...mere clips of, is just ridiculous...but that's my opinion...it's what's popular I guess :/

I certainly agree with you Lexi! And sometimes it's fan service and bloody violence at the same time... -___-
No wonder why I think anime has nothing to offer anymore. Maybe those kinds of series are popular but I just think they are ridiculous.

This is why I stick to things like Ghibli, Sailor Moon, NANA, Cowboy Bebop and Dragon Ball(Aside from the violence). There's a story to be told, Ghibli especially does a fantastic job with telling stories. I think now people are just throwing together -D stories just to cover it in fan service and violence :/

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 11:20 pm

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This is why I stick to things like Ghibli, Sailor Moon, NANA, Cowboy Bebop and Dragon Ball(Aside from the violence). There's a story to be told, Ghibli especially does a fantastic job with telling stories. I think now people are just throwing together -D stories just to cover it in fan service and violence :/


So true^^! Things like Chibli and Sailor moon have a real story to be told and not just some random ideas thrown together and covered with fan service, blood etc. stuff. And how come that some of my very favorite Sailor Moon episodes 110, 125, 197 and 198 were absolutely STUNNING without all that blood and so on ? Anime doesn't need so much blood and fan service to look good, they just ruin it (Anime can have violence but too much is just too much). And do we really need that much blood to create a desperate 'this is the end of the world' or 'they are gone, dead' episode? I think that those SM episodes prove that it's NOT necessary.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 11:21 pm

Blood and sex is what sells. Unfortunately. :/

I mean look at all the games that keep coming out? Usually rehashes of shooters. All in the same boat if you ask me.

I also think its a part of growing up. Your tastes change or if you're like me, you long for the yesteryears where everything seemed so much better, thus you watch things that remind you of childhood, etc. :/

(Also just older things are better in general, take a look at music from today compared to old classic stuff. yeah.)

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 11:27 pm

I think it's funny how back then, parents used to freak out about simple stuff like Pokemon and the little bit of violence in anime/manga and now look XD


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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 11:29 pm

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Blood and sex is what sells. Unfortunately. :/

I mean look at all the games that keep coming out? Usually rehashes of shooters. All in the same boat if you ask me.

I also think its a part of growing up. Your tastes change or if you're like me, you long for the yesteryears where everything seemed so much better, thus you watch things that remind you of childhood, etc. :/

(Also just older things are better in general, take a look at music from today compared to old classic stuff. yeah.)

This. Small Lady, I totally agree with you! Yesteryears were just better. All the anime and music back then compared to today's things O___O. Old stuff really is much better.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 11:30 pm

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I think it's funny how back then, parents used to freak out about simple stuff like Pokemon and the little bit of violence in anime/manga and now look XD


Lexi XD That is SO TRUE

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 11:39 pm

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I think it's funny how back then, parents used to freak out about simple stuff like Pokemon and the little bit of violence in anime/manga and now look XD


Omg tru fax. Srsly. Its like five year old comes up to buy Grand Theft Auto iwth his parents, I tell them that mature content is in the game including blood, violence, drugs, sexual content, partial nudity, etc. etc.

and the parent usually looks at me like i'm the retarded one or they just don't care.

Children raising children. :/

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   1st August 2012, 11:54 pm

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Lovely Lexi wrote:
I think it's funny how back then, parents used to freak out about simple stuff like Pokemon and the little bit of violence in anime/manga and now look XD


Omg tru fax. Srsly. Its like five year old comes up to buy Grand Theft Auto iwth his parents, I tell them that mature content is in the game including blood, violence, drugs, sexual content, partial nudity, etc. etc.

and the parent usually looks at me like i'm the retarded one or they just don't care.

Children raising children. :/

It's an unstoppable vicious cycle :/ anyway back to anime/manga. Correct me if I'm wrong but, aren't there more titles nowadays, I mean coming out..like there are so many! I also noticed a lot of Yaoi..which I personally am not interested in..

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 12:01 am

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Lovely Lexi wrote:
I think it's funny how back then, parents used to freak out about simple stuff like Pokemon and the little bit of violence in anime/manga and now look XD


Omg tru fax. Srsly. Its like five year old comes up to buy Grand Theft Auto iwth his parents, I tell them that mature content is in the game including blood, violence, drugs, sexual content, partial nudity, etc. etc.

and the parent usually looks at me like i'm the retarded one or they just don't care.

Children raising children. :/

It's an unstoppable vicious cycle :/ anyway back to anime/manga. Correct me if I'm wrong but, aren't there more titles nowadays, I mean coming out..like there are so many! I also noticed a lot of Yaoi..which I personally am not interested in..

Yes there are. Too many if you ask me XD And at the same time, the original shoujo (like Sailor Moon) has literary being swept away >___< and some new genres like 'shoujo series for men' and 'shounen series for women' have replaced most of the good shoujo -__-.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 12:10 am

What would shoujo series for men/shounen series for girls consist of??


I'd have to say out of "recent" anime the only thing I've watched was Princess Jellyfish (which was actually really cute imo) and as far as manga goes, I read "Addicted to Curry" (which is like food/shounen ish?) and then there was with one about women's MMA, i think it was called Teppu? That was pretty good. o.o

I don't know how old this is, but a few years bakc i bought some manga of Kitchen Princess (which was really adorable, didn't finish it though).

But I seriously don't keep up with what is new anymore really, cause i'm not all that interested? It doesn't help that my BF isn't that into anime either, besides some older series, etc. However, when we get to points where we have nothing to watch, i wouldn't mind something new that we could enjoy.

But, i dunno. sometimes i get curious about a series (like with Princess Jellyfish, i saw some gifsets on tumblr and was like "waht is this i want to watch") and i watch it, but thats been dwindling lately.

Though, I don't know if this is the case for some of you, but I used to run an Anime club at my old university and between that and the few small/medium sized cons I've been to, a lot of the attendees made me want to steer clear from it. Especially many of the obnoxious weeaboo types. I just thought to myself "Do i really want to hang around with these people?" They cause drama, are just really annoying and grate my nerves...It was driving me crazy. That is what really drove me away from anime, besides lack of interest.

I wonder if thats a factor with some of us here too?

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 12:50 am

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What would shoujo series for men/shounen series for girls consist of??


I'd have to say out of "recent" anime the only thing I've watched was Princess Jellyfish (which was actually really cute imo) and as far as manga goes, I read "Addicted to Curry" (which is like food/shounen ish?) and then there was with one about women's MMA, i think it was called Teppu? That was pretty good. o.o

I don't know how old this is, but a few years bakc i bought some manga of Kitchen Princess (which was really adorable, didn't finish it though).

But I seriously don't keep up with what is new anymore really, cause i'm not all that interested? It doesn't help that my BF isn't that into anime either, besides some older series, etc. However, when we get to points where we have nothing to watch, i wouldn't mind something new that we could enjoy.

But, i dunno. sometimes i get curious about a series (like with Princess Jellyfish, i saw some gifsets on tumblr and was like "waht is this i want to watch") and i watch it, but thats been dwindling lately.

Though, I don't know if this is the case for some of you, but I used to run an Anime club at my old university and between that and the few small/medium sized cons I've been to, a lot of the attendees made me want to steer clear from it. Especially many of the obnoxious weeaboo types. I just thought to myself "Do i really want to hang around with these people?" They cause drama, are just really annoying and grate my nerves...It was driving me crazy. That is what really drove me away from anime, besides lack of interest.

I wonder if thats a factor with some of us here too?

Umm, I'm not sure if I can explain this correctly but I'll try, 'kay ^^?

'Shounen for women' = main chracters are boys or men but they are made to please women ('elegant-pretty-boys')

'Shoujo for men' = main characters are girls or women but they are made to please men ('over-cute-tiny-cream-puffs')

(Luckily I've only read about those kind of series and not watched/read the actual stories O___O. I just don't like those genres.)
To your question:
That might be one factor. I am so to say pissed off when someone who barely knows me comes to ask what kind of hentai I'm drawing when I'm drawing someone's portrait ! ' shakes head' And I don't even watch other anime than Sailor Moon. People assume that if you read manga or watch anime, you're automatically one of the 'weeaboos' even though NONE of us on Galaxy Cauldron is -___-.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 1:02 am

Ooh as far as those series goes, i guess a show like Ouran Host Club would be similar? Or something more like Code Geass? Cause you could argue those types of anime have been around forever...but maybe there are just more of them today?

Also i think another thing is we are all growing up..? Real life kinda slapped me in the face a few years ago and i realized i couldn't keep hiding in my fantasy worlds. Sad


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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 1:21 am

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Also i think another thing is we are all growing up..? Real life kinda slapped me in the face a few years ago and i realized i couldn't keep hiding in my fantasy worlds. Sad

Yes, there are more nowadays and they have kind of superseded shoujo Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 6:14 am

Personally I have not read a lot of manga actually it's so few I can list, Shugo Chara, Sailor Moon, Fruits Baskets, Tsubasa Chronicles & Card Captor Sakura are legitimately read.They al have a specific theme & I just love them. I have never been a fan of anime. The most recent one I've watched would be Panty Stocking with Garterbelt. I just love Sailor Moon that's about it xD

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 6:38 am

Well, I have to admit, I normally look for violence and fan service in my movies, so I probably look for it in my anime and manga. Sometime when I realized how expensive my manga habit was, I stopped reading all but my favorites. Those series have already ended, so I sort of just stopped paying attention to the new stuff.

I really don't know what is out there, but I've been watching some of the newer stuff with my boyfriend. We've been watching Bleach and Naruto, which is new (but long-running). But honestly, with any series I like, I tend to become heavy into the fan fiction of that series, rather than the series itself. Fan-fiction writers love to explore the plot holes and build up the complexity of a series.

As for cartoons, hell yes the 90s were better. With some notable exceptions (Avatar, Teen Titans, Young Justice looked good, but I stopped watching it), the cartoon shows of today rely heavily on slap-stick comedy and their characters acting like... retards, really (like Ren and Stimpy from the 90s, but less crude). I want my cartoons to have some sort of plot line, but maybe that's why I watched a ton of superhero cartoons when I was younger. TMNT for the win!

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 6:52 am

@Small Lady

Heck yeah older music is better! I hate today's music. There are some songs from today I like though.

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Though, I don't know if this is the case for some of you, but I used
to run an Anime club at my old university and between that and the few
small/medium sized cons I've been to, a lot of the attendees made me
want to steer clear from it. Especially many of the obnoxious weeaboo
types. I just thought to myself "Do i really want to hang around with
these people?" They cause drama, are just really annoying and grate my
nerves...It was driving me crazy. That is what really drove me away from
anime, besides lack of interest.

I feel the same way. At my school met the anime club people and well they are such weebs. They're nice people, but some of them haven't grown out of the weeb stage. I just can't believe that they still act like that in college. Yeah it's fun to act like a complete nerd from time to time, but we're in college! We're about to go into the real world! I always thought that most people who discover anime are weebs for the first few years, but seeing those people I guess I'm totally wrong.

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As for cartoons, hell yes the 90s were better. With some notable
exceptions (Avatar, Teen Titans, Young Justice looked good, but I
stopped watching it), the cartoon shows of today rely heavily on
slap-stick comedy and their characters acting like... retards, really
(like Ren and Stimpy from the 90s, but less crude). I want my cartoons
to have some sort of plot line, but maybe that's why I watched a ton of
superhero cartoons when I was younger. TMNT for the win!

Totally agree Venus! BUT Ren and Stimpy was funnier! It was really adult humor than kid humor. Today's cartoons stop targeting toward everyone and only focuses on the kids (that's why spongebob is terrible now). A lot of 90 cartoons had sexual innuendos and now that I'm older I get the joke and it's even more funnier. I will give credit to some of the new shows though like My Little Pony and Adventure Time. Oh, and the Amazing world of Gumball! That show is so cute!! Anyway I feel like these cartoons are trying to be like 90 cartoons.

Speaking of older cartoons. It's the another reason I have put anime on the back burner is because a lot of them are getting reboots Like Teen Titans! I think it's neat that they're bringing the early 2000s cartoons back! They were great like the 90s!

I'm glad all of you feel the same way. Sometimes I feel it's just me who's feeling a lack of interest.

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 11:07 am

Venus, Bleach and Naruto, I wouldn't consider them "new" now a days. xD Bleach anime began in 2004 with the manga starting in 2001 and the Naruto manga and anime were earlier than that... so consider its at least 10 years later for those series. Yeah. But, at least they kept going up until recently.

I think by new anime, we mena stuff thats come out in the last few years or so.

As for today's cartoons, there are still some good ones out there, example: My Little Pony: FIM, Adventure Time, Misadventures of Flap Jack, Chowder, of course the cartoons you mentioned, Venus - Avatar, Teen Titans, etc. But I would say its getting far and few between to find those series.


Like I wish i could find something else like Avatar. I have yet to really find anything. If someone knows of something, please let me know. xD

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 11:56 am

Every generation has its bad shows and good shows and every generation complains about how things were so much better when they were growing up. I've been an anime fan since the mid-90s and I still watch it all the time. There's plenty of good anime out there if you know where to look. That's why they have anime review sites like ANN and Themanime.org. I love D.Gray-man, Air was such a beautiful and heart-wrenching series that made me bawl my eyes out, and Casshern Sins looks pretty good too though I've only seen the first two episodes so far. I also really liked Mushi-shi. It reminded me a lot of Ghibli if Ghibli made a TV a series for some reason. Last Exile is really good too and I've enjoyed what I've seen of Romeo x Juliet so far. On the other hand, there's a lot of hokey anime from the 70s and 80s too, like they had tons of cheesy episodic Super Robot shows that all ripped off each other. And the 80s anime was even more graphic and violent than it is today like the Devilman OVAs and Megazone 23 and Akira were incredibly violent anime. I feel like anime has actually gotten less violent these days. Compare Dragon Ball Kai to Dragon Ball Z and even the Japanese version of Dragon Ball Kai made censorship edits to some of the more violent scenes in Dragon Ball Z like toning down a lot of the blood and nudity scenes. There's still tons of good anime out there. You just have to know where to find it.
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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 1:16 pm

Haha I guess that's true, Neon. I'm just too lazy to search through the new stuff find something good. I really don't know much about the violence thing. I could careless about that stuff. I'm just stick of fansevrice. It's kills me to find something with a neat idea and then it's loaded with fanservice. >.<

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PostSubject: Re: Growing out of anime or is today's anime has nothing to offer?   2nd August 2012, 2:55 pm

At least we have lets of sexy male fanservice in Ouran, yay!
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