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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:24 am

Moe wouldn't fit Sailor Moon. They should use Naoko's designs.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:03 pm

its not really a spoiler, because to understand the movie viewers have to watch the series first.
and i show this because this movie is one of the best animated things when it comes to anime ...

@Yamichan16 K-ON is KyoAni not Toei. Madoka is SHAFT not Toei. ok Toei did some Moe with the Clannad Movie ... but so crappy that KyoAni got the rights for the series xD
= so i thing SM dosent will look "Moe" ..

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:16 pm

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@Houyou no Senshi wrote:
Guys, Sailor Moon and its related media lasted from 1991 to 2005 thats a 14 year streak of pure win. Even when things were "not as good as others" they were still pretty damn good! I'm not worried, whats more worrying is if they attempt to redo it straight from the manga, instead of trying to make it its own thing.

I mean look, in response to your worries:

Radically character changes:

Massive change to Rei Hino in original anime, nobody fussed. No one hates her right?

Live-action: subtle changes to all major characters, everybody loves them.

Way too short:

Liveaction series: 49 episodes
Anime series: 200 episodes
Musical series: 12 years

Sailor Moon does not know the meaning of "too short", the only risk is if Japan is simply no longer interested in which case it probably will be cut short.

Bad theme song:

Personally I love Momoclo at the moment ._. so they can't disappoint me but nonetheless if you don't like there music: how many songs for the series have they made, even if you exclude the anime: Otome no Policy, Tuxedo Mirage, Moon Revenge, Moonlight Destiny. Please do not judge Momoclo on that one live event. Maybe Naoko will even write it like for PGSM or Sailor Star Song!

Sailor Moon is such a solid wonderful story, it is incredibly hard to do it "wrong". That is if you're in a professional position supervised by other people. There have been some pretty damn shoddy fanstuff o.o


If there is anything to worry about, it will be attempting to cater to old fans who want thins to be like the original series. Sailor Moon isn't about us, guys, its about making Sailor Moon for a new generation right? s I doubt we won't enjoy it, the only people who won't enjoy it, in my opinion, will be closed-minded fans who were only interested in the original anime to begin with and never bothered with PGSM or Myu just because they assumed it would be bad.

I'm with Miki on this one. I mean, PGSM didn't do AS WELL as expected, but its still DAMN amazing. If Naoko has some input in it, I don't think she will let her series get a shoddy treatment.

I agree Smile

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:18 pm

Hope it'll be confirmed that the song the Momoclo sang at their concert was the new opening. i really liked it.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:58 pm

Minene Uryuu wrote:
its not really a spoiler, because to understand the movie viewers have to watch the series first.
and i show this because this movie is one of the best animated things when it comes to anime ...

@Yamichan16 K-ON is KyoAni not Toei. Madoka is SHAFT not Toei. ok Toei did some Moe with the Clannad Movie ... but so crappy that KyoAni got the rights for the series xD
= so i thing SM dosent will look "Moe" ..

I know Toie didn't make those animes....

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:20 pm

- Nehelenia will get a tiny itty bitty appearance like she did in the manga.

- Mamoru won't make sense and will be garbage.

- The Outer Sailor Senshi won't appear in the fourth season again.

- The villains won't get even screentime again. So many times in the series, a few villains get tremendous screentime and the others barely appear or do anything. (Kunzite, Caleveras/Petz, Witches 5, CereCere/JunJun/PallaPalla, Lead Crow/Tin Nyanko)

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:56 pm

That anything and everything could go wrong really haha... I'm just trying to be faithful that good things are coming. They must be right Wink

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:37 pm

Minene Uryuu wrote:
its not really a spoiler, because to understand the movie viewers have to watch the series first.
and i show this because this movie is one of the best animated things when it comes to anime ...

@Yamichan16 K-ON is KyoAni not Toei. Madoka is SHAFT not Toei. ok Toei did some Moe with the Clannad Movie ... but so crappy that KyoAni got the rights for the series xD
= so i thing SM dosent will look "Moe" ..

i started the series and haven't gotten around to finishingit. i don't watch videos of it because i don't want to spoil anything. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:02 pm

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- Nehelenia will get a tiny itty bitty appearance like she did in the manga.

- Mamoru won't make sense and will be garbage.

- The Outer Sailor Senshi won't appear in the fourth season again.

- The villains won't get even screentime again. So many times in the series, a few villains get tremendous screentime and the others barely appear or do anything. (Kunzite, Caleveras/Petz, Witches 5, CereCere/JunJun/PallaPalla, Lead Crow/Tin Nyanko)

but Kunzite was in episodes. the ones with his ideas that fail alot

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:05 pm

@small lady

Spoiler:
 

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:34 am

I personally am looking forward to a more manga-centered series, since at least that way we are somewhat guaranteed to have a better Mamoru. He was my biggest complaint about the series - he acted like such an ass ALL THE TIME, and it made it hard to really like him. Also, Tuxedo Mask always seemed so useless with his corny speeches and rose-throwing where-as in the manga at least he had some real abilities when it came down to it.

I also don't want such boy crazy senshi like we got in the US dub. I think at the center the show advocates female empowerment and a message of strong friendship between girls, and I think that gets kind of pushed aside when you have the main characters constantly focused on boys. Sure, I get that it is natural for that age group and it can be funny at times, but I don't want it to take away from their true characterization like it did for Jupiter and Mars in particular. Once again, I'm mostly talking about the US dubbed series which I am most familiar with.

I would like to see it updated to our technological age, since it would be confusing for new watchers to see - for instance - the episode where the enemy is trying to attack students at an after school cram school by brainwashing them through floppy disk. I mean, that would be pretty laughable for viewers nowadays. Also, the fashion sense in the old show was downright horrible, so I would like to see that fixed. There were numerous instances where Mamoru in particular was wearing clothes that were just downright ... ugly? In example: Here, and unfortunately there are more then just a handful of ugly spin-offs of the same outfit.

Speaking of Mamoru (once again)!, I would also like them to get his age range right again. It was downright creepy that they had the main love interest for Usagi - a middle school student - be a man in college. In the manga, he was only in high school when they first met. So, it makes the age-gap a little bit more tolerable. Also, I demand to see a sexy Mamoru wearing glases!!

Also, I would like to see a Chibiusa that I actually like to see on screen 100% of the time. I don't hate on her as much as others - in fact, she is the SM character that I tend to role play as most often - because I also forgive her annoyances as her being a young child thrust into a confusing situation. However, it would be nice to see what she can become when she is held to the standards set by the manga.

I simply like the manga more. I do enjoy the fact that it is more serious - face melting and all! - and while maybe not that dark, I think that the world could use and appreciate a more serious Sailor Moon, because the situations that women face in everyday life aren't always as flowery and easily resolved as other magical girl series often like to depict. I think it would be inspiring to see the true depth of character it takes for someone to be a "hero" like Sailor Moon is.

And of course, keep the relationship between Haruka/Michiru as is along with the intended genders of the characters remaining unchanged (IE: Fisheye, etc).
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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:18 am

My biggest fear is that it won't follow the manga. I'll probably still watch it even if it's different anyway, but we already have enough alternative continuities as it is and I think the manga storyline deserves a chance to shine on TV.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:48 am

Great points everyone. My younger sister and I were talking about this just yesterday, actually. I want to stay positive about the new series, but I admit I've had some fears as well since the announcement. At first, a part of me didn't want them to be updated to modern times (smartphones, styles, etc) because the 90's-ish vibe is what I loved so much in the anime (yes, even some of the bad outfits Very Happy). The more I thought about it, the more I felt differently and I'm actually excited about these changes if they are implemented right.

I share many of the same fears (animation not being great, not staying true to the manga, character relationship changes or lack of, being short and canceled). Hopefully many of our fears will not be realized in the future. I can't wait to see what happens and I'm looking forward to discussing it in 2013 ^.^

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:23 pm

Another of my fears:
They give Mamoru a proper fashion sense. He's too awesome with his green jacket. (or with his plain white shirt like in the manga)

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:05 pm

I think I agree with most everyone on their fears, but there are some that I would not mind at all...
for example, the not being long enough issue, I would rather see a fast pace anime with not exactly 12 but 24-26 episodes, the manga is fast pace so I wold want the same for the anime, I loved the anime but the whole "monster of the day" thing was boring at a certain point in time, for me they were just fillers.
That you won't get to see the cat family turn human (the movie doesn't count for Luna)
That it will not be a reboot with the story from the manga.
If they would make a new arc (out of nothing from the manga) that follows what happened after Stars and make it boring or if it doesn't make sense at all.
That they will introduce new characters that have nothing to do with the series.
That I'll over all hate it and depress myself because Toei screwed things up again, although it somewhat good that's toei and not gainax ¬¬

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:17 pm

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I think the manga storyline deserves a chance to shine on TV.

Be careful what you wish for manga-to-anime wanters.

I really worry about the whole IT NEEDS TO BE LIKE THE MANGA thing =\ because it will just end up being a carbon-copy and nothing special. All versions of Sailor Moon are wonderful and unique. Of course the manga is the original source but I do wish they put their own spin on it and not just rehash the manga.

In fact one of the musical sets "Mugen Gakuen ~ Mistress Labyrinth" is pretty much a carbon copy of the Infinity Series of the manga, the story falls flat on its face, most tedious and disinteresting storyline in eleven years. It is one of the fwe musical set that is almost directly coming from the manga. There was so little content they had to add an entirely new storyline withe entirely new characters which is pretty much the musical's saving grace aside from the music and the acting of Haruka and Michiru (though the acting was good, their role in the musical felt rushed and forced, very unnaturally placed). So I really don't actually hope for the manga in the anime form, just use the manga as the source and let everything come naturally.

Personally I'd love to see the Dracul Series and Kaguya Island animated but I don't think that'll ever happen.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:31 pm

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Personally I'd love to see the Dracul Series and Kaguya Island animated but I don't think that'll ever happen.

THIS. I think Kaguya Island could work REALLY well as a movie or a side shot OVA or something... but as you said, alas it will never happen. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:13 pm

I fear that either it would be too short or they won't fix the mistakes the first one had, don't g, et me wrong by mistakes I mean the things they changed from the manga or things they left out.
I hope they gives Sailor Cosmos this time, the wedding of Usagi and Mamoru and lots of other things they left out the first time

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:16 pm

I'm afraid that Toei is going to screw it up with crappy animations. I PERSONALLY think the new anime should be done by P.A. Works. I love all the detail they put into their animations.

I'm also afraid that since it is a "reboot" they can really change anything...for example one of my favorite video games have been rebooted recently...and they totally changed everything except for the main characters name. UGH Haven't played the new game yet but it looks horrible. I'm really afraid everything might change...in a bad way.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:36 pm

@HappyDia01 wrote:
I personally am looking forward to a more manga-centered series, since at least that way we are somewhat guaranteed to have a better Mamoru. He was my biggest complaint about the series - he acted like such an ass ALL THE TIME, and it made it hard to really like him. Also, Tuxedo Mask always seemed so useless with his corny speeches and rose-throwing where-as in the manga at least he had some real abilities when it came down to it.

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Speaking of Mamoru (once again)!, I would also like them to get his age range right again. It was downright creepy that they had the main love interest for Usagi - a middle school student - be a man in college. In the manga, he was only in high school when they first met. So, it makes the age-gap a little bit more tolerable. Also, I demand to see a sexy Mamoru wearing glases!!

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And of course, keep the relationship between Haruka/Michiru as is along with the intended genders of the characters remaining unchanged (IE: Fisheye, etc).
I totally agree with all of the above -- especially about Mamoru. Those are my biggest fears for the new series. I want so much for him to be more like he was in the manga. That's my biggest wish!
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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:41 pm

Well, I have quite a few.

The first is that I hope the Sailor Soldiers aren't weaklings anymore. The manga had the Sailor Moon universe on a high scale of power, and I was disappointed to see the giant gap between power. I'm not one for a show that revolves around fighting and strength, but I just hate how in the anime, the Sailor Soldiers can't do chibi and rely on external sources (Tuxedo Mask, the airplane in the first season, enemies killing each other, etc.) to defeat their enemies.

The second is that I'm hoping this doesn't turn out like the anime did. The anime was mainly filled with fillers, and it was also really kiddied down (compared to the manga). The story was also lacking in the anime, and I'm really hoping they don't do this again in the new anime. I'm really hoping that they actually follow the manga this time.

Kind of ties in with my initial statement, but I would hate to see Mamoru take up the constant role of helping out the soldiers again. In the manga, the Sailor Soldiers could one shot their enemies and could take care of themselves, which I loved. However, in the anime, I felt like Toei was trying to say that girls can't do chibi and guys have to help them out, as opposed to Naoko, who was spreading more pro-female messages in her work. So yeah, I'd hate for the damsel in distress theme to come back.

Character development. The anime tended to develop the minor characters and leave some of the major characters (primarily Setsuna and Hotaru) out. The manga developed all of the characters and kept minor characters as minor, just as a good story should. I would really love for the anime to develop all of the soldiers thoroughly, especially since my favorite Sailor Soldier was the least developed.

Crappy and inconsistent art. Not only did the art of Sailor Moon constantly fluctuate throughout the series (due to the various artists), but some of the art was really, really bad. I mean, some of it was really good (especially the art of Ikuko Ito), but there were obviously some bad ones, too (especially the art of Masahiro Ando).

So basically, I'd like for the anime to follow Naoko's footsteps and have the anime be more faithful to the manga.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:55 pm

I've already heard that this series is going to be catered to the original fans, so I'm not worried about that.
I guess in the end I haven't thought enough about what I'm worried about.
I'm scared for how they will handle relationships between characters.
Like, if we get Stars, the relationship between Seiya and Usagi. I feel that could have gone as far as it did with the anime.
Or, I hope they include some of the gruesome scenes from the manga. I don't remember what the scene was about exactly, but I saw one on Tumblr a few days ago. Sailor Moon may be about love and happiness, but there was a lot of dark crevasses in the series.
Here's the scene:
http://girlsbydaylight.tumblr.com/post/35953574836/never-let-it-be-said-that-the-sailor-moon-manga

So, I guess my post is more about what I hope, not what I'm fearing... But, I am worried about the art style a lot and the song. The original theme song is so powerful and has brought tears to my eyes. It's going to be hard to top if they get a whole new song and not just remaster it.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:35 am

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http://girlsbydaylight.tumblr.com/post/35953574836/never-let-it-be-said-that-the-sailor-moon-manga

Oh, here's the scene after the one you posted. It's a bit more gruesome.

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And then there are a few impaling scenes in the manga as well.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:07 am

I'm afraid of the animation style. I'll be at least happy if they stick to the style they had for the Stars season, where it looked the most like the manga at least. Also I'm afraid it won't still focus too much on the Stars arc and it'll turn out how it did before. I NEED SAILOR COSMOS AND THE OTHER ANIMAMATES AND BASICALLY THE WHOLE PLOT ; n ;

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:15 pm

They may not even get to the StarS arc. T^T They may just end up doing the first season.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:47 am

If they just stop at the first season I won't be a very happy girl :/

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:05 pm

Bad voice actors, Bad theme song, not actually airing the stars (I don't care because of male to female, or just keeping them female like the manga, for WHATEVER reason, it should be aired.) IF they get to it. ALSO! Keeping Michiru and Hakura LOVERS, we are in the era where that shouldn't be too big of a deal. I didn't get it when I was little, but growing up it made me kinda sick we changed that.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:56 pm

Right now we don't really have a lot of information to go on, so my only real fear is that the transformation and attack sequences will over-use CG effects like a certain other Toei magical girl series haha. And bad animation, I guess.

But those are still things I could live with though. I think I'll be happy as long as they don't mess up the characters and story too much.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:59 pm

@Miso wrote:
I'm afraid that Toei is going to screw it up with crappy animations. I PERSONALLY think the new anime should be done by P.A. Works. I love all the detail they put into their animations.

i can make a list with a lot of more studios then the "classics" PA Works & Kyoto Animation who are still better then Toei. even if some Toei hardcore lovers (because of old show like DB, Jeanne bla bla) will hate me but i have to say NOWDAYS toei is crap!!

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PostSubject: Re: What are your fears for the new Sailor Moon anime?    Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:52 pm

You guys do realise that this anime is going to be animated by Toei and its not really going to change anything how much you hate Toei or how much you think a better studio would do it, right...? Probably best to just accept it imho

Toei, like Bandai and Stardust Promotions has a very long standing relationship with Sailor Moon and its very unlikely it will change...

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