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PostSubject: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   21st October 2012, 1:54 pm

So I'm curious as to the thoughts on these two games and on the announcement of FFXIII-3: Lightning Returns


Honestly I hated FFXIII, it was so restricted and so... limited and felt a lot like, press a to get to the next scene. No real choices over all. I easily maxed out all the characters I played with at the end of each chapter. :\ In comparison to a lot of RPG games, it lacked control to the players, and came across as "babying" the player till half way though the game to even have full access to what the game allowed you to do.


The story wasn't... terrible it just was cliche a lot and a but.. cheesy. However despite all this, I sucked it up and played FFXIII-2 and I was blown away. I was addicted and loved how it essentially through you in there. The story could be a bit confusing, but it offered so many choices. I loved both Serah and Noel a LOT and the story was a lot better to me.


My only qualm was the ending >_> it sucked.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   21st October 2012, 2:03 pm

I'm currently playing through FFXIII right now. I waited for it to reach under $20 before I by it, because I've played plenty of other Final Fantasy games. I still like FFX more than any other Final Fantasy game, but I definitely hated FFX-2 more than FFXIII. I'm enjoying the characters more than I thought I would (Vanille is adorable and I adore the chocobo chick).

I dislike the crystarium feature. It feels a lot similar to the feature in FFX, but not in a good way. At first, I liked the battle paradigm feature, but I wish I had more control over which moves the non-prime characters used. Sometimes I feel like yelling at them for not using the moves I wanted them to use.

And, omg, the aeons (whatever the heck they are called in this game) are like a mixture of Transformers and Beast Wars! I squealed a little when I saw that the first time. I still prefer the aeons from FFX and FFVII, but I still squealed.

I agree, the game is very linear and restricting. I heard it opens up after like... chapter twelve or something. I'm about chapter ten, chapter eleven. Speaking of which, I do like the little summaries that play through the loading time. It helps me remember where the heck I left off.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   21st October 2012, 2:09 pm

I'm one of the few that loved FFX-2 >.< I loved how girly it was! It was like... dress up mixed with final fantasy! It was a cute mix and I liked how she grew at least.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   21st October 2012, 2:13 pm

I probably disliked how girly it was, because I like a lot of action and violence (not gore or horror) in my video games and movies.

Also, all of my opinions being said, I would very much prefer a new Kingdom Hearts game (specifically KH 3 and not all these side-stories) to a third sequel to any Final Fantasy game. One of the aspects I like about Final Fantasy is that each game has a different setting and different characters than the previous story. Sequels kind of ruins that characteristic of the series. However, I don't doubt they could make a kick-butt sequel, it just seems weird when the series has a precedent for different settings, storylines, and characters for each game.

And I will try out FFXIII-2, because you suggested it. I wouldn't have thought about playing it, otherwise. ^.^

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   21st October 2012, 2:29 pm

I played through XIII very recently for the first time. I liked the streamlined approach (I'm usually open to change) but I really really really hated Hope. Like, with the passion of a million fiery suns. He was a whiny little bastard, gosh. I disliked him enough to put me off the entire game. The story was convoluted and confusing, it felt itself... higher than it really was? If that makes sense =| A lot of characters were presented but never fully developed. I liked the friendship between Vanille and Sazh quite a bit and loved that there was yuri incorporated (subtly) through Vanille and Fang. The crystarium advancement system was like a unnecessarily beautiful version of FFX's system, I appreciated the roles and the paradigm shift but thought it was a little.. off. The presentation of the system was complex and very difficult to navigate and get a good overview of
The graphics were beautiful and easily the most impressive aspect of the game. There were a lot of ideas going and I feel if SE had taken time, backed up and refined the game it would've been better for it.

I downloaded the demo of the sequel but was a little unimpressed, but hearing you endorse it, I'll have to get myself a copy.

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I'm one of the few that loved FFX-2 >.< I loved how girly it was! It was like... dress up mixed with final fantasy! It was a cute mix and I liked how she grew at least.

I really loved it too - I didn't feel is was as.. epic as its predecessor, but I see it as a guilty pleasure of sorts. It reminds me a lot of a magical girl anime Very Happy I'm a really big fan of Rikku overall, as well. I loved the three's cameo in Kingdom Hearts 2.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   21st October 2012, 2:32 pm

So far, it seems far less confusing than FFXII. I played through that whole game and still couldn't figure out who was who much less what the hell was going on. -.-

I didn't understand the crystarium at first and used it the wrong way. I thought you had to press the button multiple times to advance someone, rather than holding the button down. You have no idea how annoying the multiple beeps were from me pressing the button multiple times. I'm glad I figured out I was doing it the wrong way. I almost decided never to level up my characters.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   21st October 2012, 2:36 pm

It throws you in the battle system, and is different than ffxiii in a bit of ways. I would recommend the book, or looking for a clear walk through as this game is REALLY open in where you can do. I had my husband help me with the game direction, but personally I liked that it was like... here you can go any where you can get to, however you may or may not get your butt handed to you. It was challenging in comparison to ffxiii.


Venus - Even holding the button down was annoying! Ugh, ffxiii-2 is a lot faster!

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   21st October 2012, 2:41 pm

Oh no, FFXII was easy to beat game-wise. I had issues with understanding the storyline. But, you are right, I would probably have to read a novel/book version of the storyline. I just couldn't get into the storyline. It was grandiose and I never felt connected with any of the characters.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   21st October 2012, 2:57 pm

We are still talking about FFXIII right? cause FXII was WAY different XD

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   21st October 2012, 3:11 pm

Oops, I thought your last post referred to my one sentence reference to FFXII.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   22nd October 2012, 10:36 am

You know what I'm curious about? Final Fantasy Versus XIII. This game has been in the works for so long (like 6 years), without a release date. It better like be a new level of gaming or something, because the wait is ridiculous. We're coming out with a FFXIII-3? And Versus XIII isn't out yet? Lord. What do you guys think about that?

I haven't had much time to sit down and play FFXIII though. Or XIII-2 (obviously lol). But I know about both. I personally like them a lot. Probably my second favorite. *shrugs* I feel like there was a lot of people that hated XIII because it was liner and whatnot.

And omg don't get me started on Kingdom Hearts. We're probably not going to see Kingdom Hearts 3 until Versus XIII is done since Tetsuya Nomura is like the head guy on Kingdom Hearts and right now apparently he's more or less "elbows deep" in Versus XIII (I'm sure Rolling Eyes). I have such a love-hate for Kingdom Hearts now since all they've put out is side-stories. I mean Dream, Drop, Distance is supposed to be the game before Kingdom Hearts 3, but we're probably going to be waiting a good while. If what's said is true, that Tetsuya Nomura is like completely focused on Versus XIII, you can bet that Kingdom Hearts isn't even being developed. There's nothing. Just a few ideas floating around his head.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   23rd October 2012, 4:00 pm

B-but... Kingdom Hearts.

Oh, out of curiosity, does the ratings system after the battles in FFXIII have to do with anything?

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   24th November 2012, 4:28 pm

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You know what I'm curious about? Final Fantasy Versus XIII. This game has been in the works for so long (like 6 years), without a release date. It better like be a new level of gaming or something, because the wait is ridiculous. We're coming out with a FFXIII-3? And Versus XIII isn't out yet? Lord. What do you guys think about that?

The Versus thing is really absurd, what's even going on with the production team? They probably reached a point in which they don't really know what to do with the game, so they might be stuck waiting for a solution... I see no other reason for the game to take so long like this. It seems that Versus will use the engine that was shown in that Agni's Philosophy, something like that, so that might be a reason too.
I don't really feel strange about it because I'm not that anxious for Versus. It seems to be a very dark game, it didn't call my attention in any of the released videos. I'm a very big fan of XIII, so the stories related to it are way more appealing to me. Thank God they're doing XIII LIGHTNING RETURNS! But again, the teams working with XIII and XIII Versus are different, so one shouldn't conflict with the other.

@SailorVenus: the ratings have to do with the time you took to beat the monster, also taking into consideration your status (the stronger you are, the quicker you should defeat the monster to get a better rating.)

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   24th November 2012, 6:06 pm

But is there a motivation to receive a better rating? I couldn't tell if it impacted drop items or not.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   24th November 2012, 10:42 pm

Yup, having higher ratings increases the chances of dropping items. ^^

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   25th November 2012, 12:09 am

I just don't know about this one. So many people didn't like the fact there was next to no free roam in the game at all. I haven't played FFXIII-2, but I have the sneaking suspicion I will hate it just as much as X-2. So if the trend keeps up with the XIII series, I'm gonna have to go with a no, I will not be wasting my time or money on a third.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   9th December 2012, 1:48 pm

When Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Kingdom Hearts III comes out:


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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   1st January 2013, 10:16 pm

Can we just



Why is she so awesome??

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   2nd January 2013, 2:15 am

I did like FFXIII (it's the first FF I've ever played through fully)
However, I didn't like it as a game. I liked it as a movie. A convoluted movie I sometimes didn't understand past, 'they are on a ship now? Ok. Oh they are battling things? Ok'.
It was very pretty, I'll give it that.
And I am surprised there's gonna be a third. Like, what?

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   2nd January 2013, 8:01 am

And we have the problem of newest FF games.
Forget all what you know about epic RPGs and exploration. Now, it's all about pretty graphics and interactive movies.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   2nd January 2013, 8:29 am

This is true about the movie aspect. It does feel more "movie"-ish. You can just pull it up on Youtube and watch someone play and it'll be like watching a movie.

I was surprised to find out that they're making a sequel for the sequel, too. I actually found out via this thread that they were XD

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   2nd January 2013, 2:45 pm

Lol so did I XD.
Lightning was cool though, they are probably trying to capitalize on that. Unless, they actually really are trying to improve the same story to show fans they still are good? (Does anyone understand that?)
And Mayo got right down to the point, lol. The new FF doesn't really feel like an RPG.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   2nd January 2013, 2:56 pm

There are other FF games I can play over and over again, but I'm having a hard time wanting to finish FF XIII. Also... apparently my PS3 doesn't want me too either, because it stopped working. -.-

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   4th January 2013, 4:42 pm

Am I the only one who really enjoyed FFXIII? I guess I liked it because it's not like an open world RPG because personally, I hate RPGs lol.

I also never used the auto feature. I ignored it like the plague. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   4th January 2013, 5:11 pm

No. I loved FFXIII. And Lightning <3

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   4th January 2013, 5:39 pm

I really liked it in the beginning, but then everything just began to feel so repetitive. There are things I do like about FFXIII, for example, the baby chocobo. The creators also did not overuse the baby chocobo, which could have so easily happened.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   22nd March 2013, 10:18 am

New rumor: Final Fantasy Versus XIII is gonna be rebranded as Final Fantasy XV.

Which, would be a good thing because they're kind of stretching out XIII a bit too far. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if no one is taking Versus XIII seriously anymore. I was just saying the other day, "this better be the end-all of all Final Fantasy games/games in general". I mean, I can barely take the thought of Kingdom Hearts 3 seriously, too. Stupid Square Enix >.>

But yeah, that's an update that's XIII-ish related. I don't know if any of you were interested in Versus XIII, but it looked promising (and may still be promising).

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   22nd March 2013, 10:44 am

If I want an interactive movie, I'll play Crysis 2. At least people aren't deformed there, and everything looks believable. Not like a game that's very name is a contradiction.

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   22nd March 2013, 10:54 am

I think you're missing the Fantasy aspect of Final Fantasy. Also if you knew a little about Square Enix, you'd know why it's titled Final Fantasy. o.o

But also remember, if you honestly don't like Final Fantasy, that you don't have to post here. Please, no bashing Wink

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PostSubject: Re: FF Xiii & Fxiii-2 and ? Discussion   22nd March 2013, 11:15 am

Okay, it's not my cup of tea.

I did my research, yes. And also, I had my run-in with Square-Enix: They+Obsidian messed up a game called Dungeon Siege 3. ****

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