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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   2nd August 2014, 4:59 pm

yes i think he does, it makes it more interesting Smile

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   2nd August 2014, 5:26 pm

Hnnnnggg! I loved episode 3!
The best one yet!
I am looking forward to 4 for sure!

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   2nd August 2014, 6:18 pm

Idk I'm not too pleased with Rei right now. There wasn't really any fire in her at all. And some scenes she was really poorly drawn. Maybe in future eps she'll gain more fire? But right now, I'm not really feelin' it.

Also I doubt Jadeite died. I didn't get that vibe at all. It looked like he escaped. So I doubt he's dead yet.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   2nd August 2014, 7:10 pm

Sad to say but this was my least favorite episode. Rei's transformation was just....crazy. I couldn't see what the hell was going on! And I know it's a minor dumb detail but her hair isn't as full as in the original anime or manga. It's smaller and not as beautiful and thick as it usually is. And she just seemed very...blah. She lacked something in this episode. Hopefully they build on her character in the next couple of episodes.
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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   2nd August 2014, 7:19 pm

I kind of like that Rei is a little more calmer and mature rather than completely firey. I think once we get to know her more her personality will come out.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   2nd August 2014, 9:40 pm

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i loved this episode actualy. i loved the usamamo moment on the bus and Rei chan is perfect, i also liked that Jadeite was attracted to her (playing on those canon ships) and i totally think Jadeite escaped.
Actually Jadeite was in love with sailor mars before he got brainwashed during the silver millennium and each inner senshi had a general that loved them.   So the attraction is not out of the blue  
Heres official art work to prove it
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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   2nd August 2014, 9:51 pm

I thought it was great.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   2nd August 2014, 11:17 pm

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THEY CHANGED THE BUS SCENE BETWEEN MAMO AND USA AND THAT MADE ME SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in the manga was better.

My ONLY complain about this episode

Other than that, 10 thumbs up =) #HaineApprovesThisEpisode
Normally, I'm super cool with adaptation and changes, but I agree. Why change what's already a cute scene to something awkward? I always saw the bus scene as Mamoru playfully teasing Usagi. Now, it almost seems like he's just cold and calculative. I wonder if this change was a response to the sort of bad boy emotionless anime characters like Sasuke from Naruto we've seen in anime since the original Sailor Moon aired.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   2nd August 2014, 11:33 pm

i have to say while I adore the manga bus scene, I loved this scene as well and their awkwardness with each other, Usagi is so crushing on him, and shes beginning to realize it, hence her super awkwardness, and I hope to see more of Mamoru specifically him talking that boy is too pretty to not have a dialogue less than 10 words.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   3rd August 2014, 12:29 am

Oh yeah. I had no problems with the way Usagi acted, just mostly with how Mamoru was. Honestly, it could be a more personal issue with me, but I think my opinion of the scene will change once the entire anime is out and Mamoru's less playful nature is justified.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   3rd August 2014, 4:15 am

Yeah what always bothered me about the manga is how they can just do things like teleporting wherever they want or flying, etc. The senshi have always been able to teleport in the manga, it was just the anime that made it something that require a lot more power/people with Sailor Teleport. I don't believe Sailor Teleport was a concept in the manga as they always just blink from one place to another without much fuss.

And I know Rei is meant to be cooler originally, but in Crystal she also appears way more subdued? Like she's just so sad. That speech part though what is that pose Rei lol I totally got her 90s anime self's vibe from that ridiculous pose when she announces herself as Sailor Mars.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   3rd August 2014, 6:52 am

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HikariDemand wrote:
i loved this episode actualy. i loved the usamamo moment on the bus and Rei chan is perfect, i also liked that Jadeite was attracted to her (playing on those canon ships) and i totally think Jadeite escaped.
Actually Jadeite was in love with sailor mars before he got brainwashed during the silver millennium and each inner senshi had a general that loved them.   So the attraction is not out of the blue  
Heres official art work to prove it

I always thought that wasn't considered proof that it was canon? Like besides that picture and I think one other think Naoko never did anything else to really prove the senshi/general romanace was a thing. Idk.

@Mars: I understand what you're saying about Mars but I think her "fire" will come out later. I don't think it will ever be to the extent that it was like in the anime but I think it will be there. I felt like some of it came out when she was confronting Jadeite. Also that ridiculous yet fabulous pose:



That's something only Rei Hino would do.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   3rd August 2014, 7:45 am

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i have to say while I adore the manga bus scene, I loved this scene as well and their awkwardness with each other, Usagi is so crushing on him, and shes beginning to realize it, hence her super awkwardness, and I hope to see more of Mamoru specifically him talking that boy is too pretty to not have a dialogue less than 10 words.

I agree! I really don't want to have to wait for the next episode! I really hope they make it really good.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   3rd August 2014, 3:37 pm

Loved this episode, although I may be a bit biased as Mars is my favorite (Sailor Mars and I share certain...inclinations...shall we say). 

I do think Rei will loosen up in later episodes...if my memory serves, she was a bit reticent at first in the manga and the earlier anime. (Granted, it's been awhile since I've read/seen either.)

Which reminds me, are Phobos and Demios in the 90's anime? For some reason I don't remember them being there...

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   3rd August 2014, 3:39 pm

They are, they just show up infrequently.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   3rd August 2014, 3:42 pm

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They are, they just show up infrequently.

Ahhh...thanks! *makes mental note to re-watch the 90's anime and re-read the manga, too*

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   4th August 2014, 7:05 pm

I love that the the new episode shows Rei like she is in the manga rather than how they made her in the anime.  The scene on the bus was disappointing, because in the other episodes they were actually quoting the manga I was waiting for Mamoru to say "Yeah Luna, keep talking."  I also like that they threw in the whole Jadeite/Rei thing because there actually is supposed to be a relationship between the generals and the inner senshi.  Also that Zoisite is actually a man in Crystal rather than being a woman in the 90's anime.
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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   4th August 2014, 7:17 pm

Zoisite was always a man in the 90s anime. The dub changed his gender.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   4th August 2014, 7:30 pm

Yah, in the dub, Zoisite was changed to a girl because the anime kind of makes it look like Zoisite and Kunzite are in a relationship. I'm not sure if that happened in the manga. And since at the time (and still to some extend today), American society wasn't ready to see a gay couple on tv like that, he became she. I remember being so shocked when I watched the original japanese version and I was like..but but Zoisite was a girl!! lol I did some googling after that.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   4th August 2014, 8:59 pm

Zoisite was only gay in the original anime and he was straight in the manga.  I wonder why Toei changed his sexuality to begin with.
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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   4th August 2014, 9:08 pm

I guess since they were going beyond the manga material anyway, they decided to add some extra drama among the Dark Kingdom Generals to give them some more depth. Nephrite never had a relationship with Naru either outside the anime.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   5th August 2014, 6:39 am

Yeah, as much as I disliked Toei Animation's original changes in the old anime, now I can appreciate them a little more. In fact, I'm so curious about them that I almost want to go back and watch the original anime. 

I understand a lot of people were excited that Sailor Moon Crystal was closely adapting the manga and I respect that. Now that it's come out though, its animation has proved to be mediocre at best. With no original story behind it, all we can attribute to Toei Animation is, well, the animation. Then again, if the animation is this bad, I can't even imagine what horrors they would have added to the story.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   5th August 2014, 12:07 pm

They defeat Jadeite and then they show us an airport. xD

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   5th August 2014, 3:47 pm

I thought it was a good episode. I admit that in the beginning I thought some of the dialogue was a little...clunky perhaps? Maybe that's just the subtitles.

I admit that Rei seemed far less aggressive, and I don't like that. She NEEDS to be aggressive and passionate. It just fits her title as a Sailor MARS. But hopefully she'll get better. And I really like how they dealt with the crows mistake I've mentioned from the manga. You know, how the crows (who are still supposed to be normal) show up in the ALTERNATE DIMENSION without any indicator as to how and without establishing them in the scene earlier.

The first manga fixed it by having them be drawn in. This one fixed it just by omitting them. I like how they were paying attention. And I like how they changed the fight scene. And Usagi set off the whole boomerang-trap thing. In the manga it looked like Luna set it off...somehow. But in the first anime and this one, Usagi did. It shows she's LEARNING something.

And I like how they didn't use that ridiculous "arrow jumping off the monitor" thing from the manga.

And yeah, the conversation between Mamoru and Usagi is awkward, but I think it would be rather awkward, wouldn't you? I mean they keep bumping into each other. Both of them probably realize that it's just weird. Like It's that girl again. Why do I keep running into her? No, seriously, why?

Besides that, he may have seen/heard Luna talk, and Usagi's trying not to draw attention to that. And besides that, he saw her talking to a cat, on a bus. Yeah, it's weird.

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   5th August 2014, 8:05 pm

I was definitely much more impressed with this episode more so for the quality of it. Yes it was much more fast paced but I think that reflects Rei's personality where as Ami is a lot more calculated therefore it took some time to get to know Ami. Also the Dark Kingdom are getting more desperate in their attempts to find the silver crystal and they now see the guardians as a threat so it's natural that it would be a lot more action based and less story line focused. 

I really enjoyed Sailor Mar's transformation too it was pretty cool, especially with the background music, great choice. I loved the connection between Jadeite and Rei, so glad this was included. Most disappointed in the bus scene between Mamoru and Usagi (except when he takes his glasses off damn boy) that scene was amazing in the manga so I got a bit excited, then I was let down. Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to the next episode Smile
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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   9th August 2014, 3:28 pm

The innersxgeneral pairings is cannon and it's not. Naoko originally wanted to pair them up, but didn't get too. So I hope Crystal will make this happen! Those boys need some limelight!!  

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   9th August 2014, 3:32 pm

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The innersxgeneral pairings is cannon and it's not. Naoko originally wanted to pair them up, but didn't get too. So I hope Crystal will make this happen! Those boys need some limelight!!  
I so agree with this Smile 

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PostSubject: Re: SM Crystal Episode 3 - Spoilers   9th August 2014, 6:09 pm

I watched this a couple days ago and I've been a huge advocate of SMC since it came out. But honestly... I'm a little bummed at how cringeworthy the animation was this episode... it was even worse then EP2 and I love Rei so much so it's even more sad to me Sad  

Over all I'm still enjoying the dialog for the most part. I definitely loved Usagi's reaction. However I'm pretty heartbroken over the lack of "Yeah keep talking Luna" part and the lack of the flashback/realization on both Usagi's and Mamoru's part.  (the scene Mercury pointed out and was later linked)  I really really wanted that one line.

Hoping for a little more of a turn around in animation as we progress...

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