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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   14th June 2015, 1:37 pm

Don't forget the livechat event! Instead of the chatbox, we will be moving this to SKYPE. You can add me to Skype and I can add you to the GC Chat Group.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   14th June 2015, 3:02 pm

We are in the GC Skype Chat group! Come join us to chat!

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   14th June 2015, 3:04 pm

I don't have Skype. Is there another time when we could move to chatbox?

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   14th June 2015, 3:07 pm

I'm sorry! We have decided to not use the chatbox as we've been having issues with it (lag with lots of member, disturbing others chatting) if we can figure out another medium we can use that. However, if no one comes to skype, i may just move it back to the chatbox...

Skype is free btw and we can add you to the GC Group Chat if youd like. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   14th June 2015, 3:14 pm

I won't be able to be there because I'll be at pokemon symphonic evolutions! I'll discuss the heck outta it in the thread though, If I'm allowed.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   14th June 2015, 3:15 pm

Yes, please go ahead and start discussing in thread. ^_^

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   14th June 2015, 3:16 pm

Alright, I'll do that when I get back.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   14th June 2015, 10:07 pm

oh well, i missed it again =(

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   14th June 2015, 11:21 pm

I'll start discussing per chapter/act, so here goes:

Act 7
In all honesty, I never thought until crystal that Mamoru taking a passed out Usagi to his apartment was all that creepy. It's weird, but reading the manga chapter again, it still doesn't seem creepy. (No idea why it seems creepy to me in crystal though.) It always surprises me how little we know about Mamoru's life beforehand-other then he was orphaned after a car crash, and that caused memory loss that allowed his past life to seep in. That means, since he was 6, for a solid 11-12 years he's been having broken dreams about the fall of the moon kingdom. 

This also seems to be the last appearance of Usagi's other friends, Yumiko and Kuri. Also Sailor Venus making her appearance by slicing zoicite to bits after being reviled as the one who has been giving luna advice at the crown center all this time? Nice. 

Act 8
When I was younger, I always thought it was obnoxious that Venus was pretending to be the princess. I already knew the Usagi was, so why was she pretending? It had me really angry and confused for a few years. But it wasn't until I was 14 did I understand the full details of Venus' decoy plan. We should have gotten Sailor V the first time tokopop ran sailor moon, it makes a whole lot of sense. Venus was the first one to remember everything, so of course she would devise a fantastic plot. Still gives me a weird feeling reading the chapter whenever the other senshi refer to her as princess, however. 

My heart always swells when Usagi decides to telaport the "princess" and the other senshi out of the way of the blast-as well as Mamoru taking the hit. It shows so much about both of their characters omg.

Act 9
Usagi awakens as princess serenity, and everyone remembers the past-even the shinttou. Reading about the past was always a heart breaker. It always surprises me that metallia was alive for so long, and had been manipulating the earthlings hearts against the moon-starting with Beryl. If metallia never existed, would the war never have happened, or at least had a less devastating impact? 

So the crystal popping out heals everything and metallia senses it. I always thought the scientists detecting the force was sort of useless-it doesn't really provide anything plot wise and never pops up again. It's not a plot device, so why add it? It doesn't even add to the drama? "Oh, there was this fantastic healing light that stopped the quakes, lets never talk of it or try to figure out what it was ever again man that was something." 

The nightmare scene was well placed-especially considering just how much Usagi had to deal with in a short amount of time. Learning of her past AND mamoru being captured? Who wouldn't have a nightmare? Also, her hair growing super long and the senshi all coming in to help cut it was a precious bonding moment-for the girls as friends and as soldiers. It ends with luna deciding they can go to the moon to figure out more. 

Act 10
Even though it was for solid plot reasons, I still think them just telaporting to the moon is rather silly. Don't ask me how or why, but even though queen serenity pops up and tells them all about the fall of the moon kingdom, gives Usagi solid advice about the silver crystal and they get the sword of sealing, I still find it odd. It was something I saw as unnecessary as a kid-probably because I had seen the anime arc of this first-and I just can't shake that feeling now. Though learning of the suicide-something we didn't learn in the previous act when Usagi was regaining all those memories-is still a heartrending moment. Though we learn that the force of all this evil, metallia, came from a solar flare? Couldn't the crystal have prevented that in some way or lessened the effect? 

Also, kenji was able to take the crystal and turn it into a necklace with no problems. Why didn't metallia and beryl just pop up and take it from him? How did the jeweler manage to make it into a necklace? Was the power that dormant? And poor Kunzite, he had his memories and was forced-again-to fight at beryls side. A double possession, dang that is hardcore. Also, the senshi attacking Kunzite BEFORE he attacked Usagi, let alone made any notion to answer Usagi's interrogation kinda stunk. Then again, he WAS there before and tried to kill her, so I can't judge the senshi for their actions; but if they only showed up a little later the next chapter's conflicts might not have happened.

Act 11
Aka, the chapter where stuff gets serious.
Mamoru is brainwashed by beryl-bad. She sends him to earth to get close to the princess-Usagi-and he kills a guy to get his identity and uses massive brainwashing techniques. Talk about hardcore! The first time I read this I was in legit shock, and I still consider it to be a well placed element. Mamoru, as Endo, tries to get information out of Usagi, but she is somehow able to resist his powers-but its too bad Motoki and Makoto can't. Mako goes solo to talk to "endo" but becomes possessed and calls the other senshi over to the base, only to lead them into a direct attack. And we're back to "Leave it to Sailor Venus" because she just takes control of the situation, kicks Makoto out of the way, frees Motoki and is the first to start fighting. Usagi is just confused-while that angers me, I understand why and it is well written and just sits there watching them fight Mamoru. Now what really irritates me is that it was luna getting hit, not her friends, is what got her to act. Is it because she's used to them fighting and not luna? Is it because luna to her knowledge is just a fragile cat being? Who knows, Either way it snaps her out of it, she transforms and while healing everyone, attempts to heal Mamoru when SURPRISE beryl pops up. The final battle begins. 

I always enjoyed these chapters better then the earlier ones, because of their sheer intensity and how the plot driven storyline thickens. I find myself reading acts 8-most of 14 because of the battle. The way those chapters played out in terms of placing, elements and fighting scenes was incredibly influential to my writing and ideas of dramatic developments as a whole. Though the later arcs would trump that, it was this arc that made me realize I loved the manga more then the 90s anime.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   15th June 2015, 6:39 am

So I had mentioned this in the live chat event, but I totally realized something about Mixx's version of the manga, that I never noticed until now. So they gave Darien a last name, Shields. His japanese name "Mamoru" can have the meaning of protector. A shield is something that protects. Kudos to you Mixx manga!

Also V-babe > using V-chan. lol

People complain about the Mixx/Tokyopop versions translation but honestly in the beginning its really not that bad. Sure they localize it and keep the names cause of the Dic Dub so they won't confuse all the fans (and cleverly still managed to keep calling Usagi as her english translated name "Bunny"). I think the translation really started to suffer once Tokyopop had officially taken over.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   16th June 2015, 4:10 pm

I CANNOT BELIEVE I FORGOT ALL ABOUT V-BABE! V-BABE OVER V-CHAN FOREVER!

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   16th June 2015, 6:08 pm

Isn't Vbabe the best thing? I wish they had even said that in the dubbed anime. XD

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   16th June 2015, 6:15 pm

No matter what translation, I'll still read the panel as "V-Babe scratched the marble! Not my Fault!" 

One of the best lines in the sailor moon manga period.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   17th June 2015, 11:48 am

Since I was unable to go to the live discussion, I'm going to put my thoughts here Smile

Usagi and Mamoru are so precious <3 I kind of wish we were given some insight as to how Mamoru is feeling regarding Usagi being Sailor Moon and things like that. He shows his thoughts with his actions, but I still want to be inside his head for at least a little bit in scenes like the one at his apartment. But him kissing her handkerchief was so freaking adorable Smile

Sometimes I feel like Metalia is a useless character. This whole arc would make a lot more sense if Beryl was the villain in charge, and she needed energy to give her more power. 

I'm wondering if the Dark Kingdom's layout in D Point is the same as it was during the Silver Millennium. Perhaps it was where Beryl and Metalia made their plans to take over the moon? I also like how much personality the shittenou are given, and that Beryl and Co. aren't completely oblivious like they were in the anime. I also wonder about Beryl, and whether or not she was sealed away with Metalia. She talks of 'breaking the seal', and at first I thought she was referring to breaking it during the Silver Millennium. But later, when Venus was explaining to everyone, she said that someone must have broken the seal that kept Metalia at bay. So I'm wondering if Beryl was reincarnated as a mortal on Earth before finding Metalia? I think that's actually correct, because later in the volume, when Kunzite and the shittenou regain their memories, it shows them as regular mortals and says that they were reborn to find Endymion. So I'm thinking that when Beryl broke Metalia's seal in present-day, she got her memories back, found the shittenou, and brainwashed them again. Kunzite reminisces and says that they "once again fell into their hands", and this caused their bodies to change. I apologize if this was all something you knew beforehand - I had no idea and I'm really fascinated by this. 

I love how happy the girls are now that they're friends with Usagi. Comparing the girls in this volume to the girls in volume one shows a huge difference in their personalities. This also applies to Usagi as Sailor Moon. Although she doesn't have a lot of confidence in herself, she shows a lot more bravery in the field, and no longer hesitates before she acts. And her speeches make me giggle xD Also, I noticed this in volume one but thought it was only temporary, but has anyone noticed that Jupiter's antennae is always out? I really love how worried the girls look when Serenity is crying over Endymion. Naoko is great at evoking emotion in her characters. And don't even get me started on precious Luna. I really enjoyed the scene where the girls did Usagi's hair Smile I also love how Usagi doesn't seem to quite forget about her friendship with Naru and Umino.

I had no idea Luna had x-ray vision O.o

When Usagi was being choked by Zoisite, Mamoru looked so pained and it just made my heart happy. And the way he looks at her when they're together is so precious <3 AND WHEN SHE KISSED HIM AND HE COVERED HIS MOUTH ALL ADORABLE-LIKE I COULD NOT HANDLE IT. AND THEN HE TOOK KUNZITE'S ATTACK FOR HER AND I WAS KICKING LIKE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD. Usagi's agony was expressed in a really powerful way, and I think Naoko did a good job with her transformation moment. 

V makes me so happy in more ways than one xD When she made her dramatic entrance, you can tell she totally did it on purpose because she chuckles to herself afterwards. Artemis, on the other hand, made me mad with his very first sentence. I loved that badass scene where Venus fought Makoto and Mamoru Smile

The transformation of Usagi's tiara has me puzzled. The first time, it transformed because of Mamoru. But this time, it transformed because of Venus. Something I also noted was that her tiara this time around was shaped like Venus's crescent moon that she throws. 

Poor Kunzite all by himself Sad I don't really understand why, after getting his memories, Kunzite continued to follow Beryl's orders. Was it because he wanted to keeo Endymion close?

I love how the direction of the pocket watch triggered the return of Usagi's memories! I also really enjoyed getting to see what the effects of the Silver Crystal had on Earth! I'm thinking the watch stopped when they returned to the moon because Usagi had all of her memories. But this confuses me, because it started again when she saw the brainwashed Mamoru. 

Can we just take a moment and appreciate Jupiter and all of her adorable perfection? She is so freaking cute with her adorable, proud smile, and it is so obvious how much she cares about Usagi. When Rei teases Usagi, who comes to her aid? Makoto. When Kunzite went to attack Serenity, who jumped in the way? Jupiter. Who hugged Usagi when she started to cry over Mamoru? Makoto. Who attempts to cheer Usagi up when they reach the moon? Jupiter. Who confronts Motoki and Endo regarding Usagi's safety? Makoto.

Every scene with Ikuko and Kenji tugged at my heartstrings and that is not okay. 

Dear lord Mamoru's checkered shirt is hideous.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   17th June 2015, 11:49 am

^ it might be, we weren't given any information if the layer was at D point, considering the battle ended up taking place right at the crown arcade

^and holy crud I forgot about luna and her odd x-ray vision.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   18th June 2015, 8:24 am

Out of all the scenes in Volume 2, which was your favorite? I would have to say the flashback scenes to the Silver Millennium.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   18th June 2015, 9:36 am

The battle scenes, hands-down. When everything started to hit the fan-when the princess was reviled and how it all snowballed from there. Sure, the flashback scenes were pretty and heartbreaking, but the fights where the best on my end. 
Also the lovey dovey scenes between Usagi and Mamo were very tender and heartwarming.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   18th June 2015, 9:39 am

Hehe, the lovey-dovey scenes are why I said the flashbacks, because I love the images where Endymion is holding Serenity Smile It gives me so many feels <3

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   18th June 2015, 12:00 pm

I liked some of the flashes we got about the Shittennou and learning about them.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   18th June 2015, 1:15 pm

All the flashbacks in the manga just make me want so much more and open a lot of questions about Queen Serenity, who she is, where she came from, and how exactly she "birthed" Princess Serenity.

Honestly none of the versions of SM really go into that time period in much depth (i guess with the exception of La Reconquista which had a decent length scene set in the Moon Kingdom) and I really wish they had.  I can understand the musicals not really doing it, a musical show aimed at little kids that love sailor moon will not get much interested with SilMil stuff.  The 90s anime could've totally dedicated like a one or two more episodes to it or have more flashbacks (would have LOVED flashbacks during SuperS and even slight hints in Stars when they were talking about Starseeds and subtle hint at Queen Serenity carrying a star seed), don't need to bring up SMC, we all know what happens there, and the live action didn't even show any sort of flashbacks whatsoever. We don't even learn of Q. Serenity till the Special Act.  In fact, this just reminds that is something I so wish had been in PGSM, even though it wasn't really necessary to the story.

I'm a sucker for SilMil stuff, so come at me fanfictions! XD  I think this is why even though Dark Kingdoms story isn't the best of the main arcs, its still my favorite.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   18th June 2015, 1:17 pm

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   18th June 2015, 2:43 pm

There had to be a dad, right? Or else she was immaculate.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   19th June 2015, 9:21 am

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There had to be a dad, right? Or else she was immaculate.

Theres a lot of theory about this, especially with some scenes from the Stars arc which I won't bring since we aren't there yet. But none of the other versions of SM mention a father too.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   19th June 2015, 10:23 am

I think I know what scenes you're talking about.

Wait! I got it! The crystal is her father! XD

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   26th June 2015, 11:05 am

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   26th June 2015, 11:59 am

Either here or via PM Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   26th June 2015, 12:08 pm

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   26th June 2015, 2:13 pm

I'll sign up again!

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   26th June 2015, 2:16 pm

I'll sign up again as well. Just in case.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARCHIVE] Sailor Moon Manga Club   26th June 2015, 3:08 pm

I'll sign up for the next volume. I had to miss volume 2 for certain reasons.
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