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 Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?

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PostSubject: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   20th January 2017, 12:35 pm

It has just occurred to me while looking at Usagi's brooches that her Silver Crystal is in fact only silver in two of her brooches and not her other three. 

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Thoughts?

She is secretly using Chibi Moon's Pink Moon Crystal!

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   20th January 2017, 1:37 pm

Are you talking theory, or just ideas?

Theory-wise, I have no clue, but idea wise they might have changed the color to make it more toy-notable, either that or they wanted to change the color for the S season only and it just kinda stuck.

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   20th January 2017, 1:38 pm

Nah just ideas. If develops into theories, it can definitely be moved.

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   20th January 2017, 9:02 pm

Either that or the silver crystal isn't in the brooch any longer. It wasn't in her first brooch, only the crystal star.

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   20th January 2017, 10:02 pm

I thought in the S movie the silver crystal was in her brooch because it comes out in the battle against the Ice Queen lady?

Though realistically the toy reason is probably most likely why.

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   21st January 2017, 12:19 am

Real world reason: like others have said, to make pink toys targeted at little girls.

In-universe reason: I think Usagi's signature color is magenta or dark pink (e.g. the color of her bow), so the "Silver" Crystal took on the magenta colored when it's seated inside the brooch.

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   21st January 2017, 8:44 pm

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Usagi's signature color is magenta or dark pink (e.g. the color of her bow)
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Yeah I'm pretty sure the Crystal Star was the only one. Remember she doesn't need the Silver Crystal to transform-- she had that power before she found it. So I don't believe those are the Silver Crystal you're looking at, but a different fancy decorative jewel. She generally keeps the Silver Crystal kind of hidden away in sone sort of pocket dimension... wherever her sceptors all go when she's not using them.


Chibi Moon (at least in the manga) DOES keep hers in her brooch though. (Mistress 9 took it and swallowed it).


Then again, maybe the SC goes in the brooch with a pink glass or plastic protective covering over it?

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   21st January 2017, 10:59 pm

^You know, that would make more sense, considering how out in the open it was in the crystal star. Queen serenity could have been like "uh-oh, made a woopsie" and fixed it once Usagi's powers upgraded.

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   22nd January 2017, 1:34 am

But Usagi can't transform without the Silver Crystal, and whenever the brooch is taken away from her, she can't transform (i.e. episode 100 in S with her birthday when Kaorinite took the brooch). In Stars, when Siren takes the brooch, her transformation also comes undone. Siren was after the Silver Crystal as it was her star seed/Sailor Crystal. Ergo, the brooch holds the Silver Crystal up to that point in Stars.

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   22nd January 2017, 7:08 am

She cannot transform without the brooch, no. But the crystal was NOT in her very first brooch when she first became Sailor Moon, and (at least in the manga) Luna pointed out the novelty of the Crystal Star brooch now having space to hold the crystal. So then this would mean that characters like Siren taking both the crystal and brooch would certainly do a number on her.

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   13th February 2017, 8:39 pm

It appears Sailor Cronus has it right .

I'd still be curious to look into the reference diagrams or settei for the pink-jeweled ones just in case they mention anything about the Silver Crystal at all though! Sadly, mobile doesn't lend itself well to my usual translation resources :'(... I'll just have to wait for now.

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   13th February 2017, 9:15 pm

Just to be clear, I'm not saying the crystal absolutely is not in the brooch, just that it's a possibility since Usagi is able to survive and has even transformed without it being directly in the brooch.

I'd like to point ouy that not only is the silver Crystal not pink, it's also not heart or star shaped.

Consider also: In the Sailor Moon S movie (Lover of Princess Kaguya/ Hearts in Ice), Sailor Moon summoned the Silver Crystal and used it independantly of the brooch. And anyway those other brooches are bulky. It's easy to imagine the crystal being inside yet not exposed.
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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   14th February 2017, 4:56 am

Oh! I don't think I had noticed the color differences, so I hadn't thought about it before. Y'all have some interesting insights and theories to explain the color differences. Thanks for sharing.

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PostSubject: Re: Er, why isn't the Silver Crystal silver colored in these brooches?   29th May 2017, 7:47 pm

Sooo I was thinking over this again recently and remembered that Brit mentioned something about the S movie. So, I Googled it and lo and behold:

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The image above looked to me like it had been recoloured or something, so I found the scene in the movie myself and it's there the same way at 50:20.

So I have no clue as to any canon explanation for the colour disguise while in the brooch XD. But, it's definitely the Crystal itself that we're seeing as pink in her S season brooch at least!

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