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PostSubject: Did I miss something...?   Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:03 pm

So, because I am a bad fan, I JUST started watching Crystal, and I am confused. I would be eternally grateful if some wonderful super fans could help me to understand...

1. If Usagi (and the people of Earth in the 30th century) only live 1,000 years, and Chibiusa is 900 years old, does she only have 100 years left to live? Would the 1,000 year timer start at adulthood? Does that mean that Usagi was going to die at approximately the same as her own daughter?

2. This wiki (http://sailormoon.wikia.com/wiki/Sailor_Cosmos) states as if it is fact that Sailor Cosmos is the future version of Usagi. I know she was reveled to be the ultamite form of A Sailor Moon, but did we somehow find out it was Usagi? Because that doesn't make much sense to me...
The wiki page does currently have a "We are working on this template" message, but I'm not actually sure if that means they are editing the info or the actual page layout... 

Any and all answers would be appreciated, and I apologize if they seem like silly questions...

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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:20 pm

Good questions! XD

1. Unfortunately... never actually addressed anywhere. And if it's 1000 years total for everyone, Chibs'd die 22 years after Usagi, leaving any children she had completely without guidance, which is not so good at all. @_@ Best to believe it's around 1000 years after reaching maturity, just for the whole "good of Earth" deal.

2. It is not confirmed that she is the future of this Usagi; different fan theories go different ways - I like to think that Cosmos is a future reincarnation of Usagi, just as Usagi's a reincarnation of Princess Serenity - so it's the same soul (ish) but different bodies, which solves the whole "can't get close to my future self without issue" problem brought up in Black Moon arc ((so many chibi-chibi/usagi hugs; if they were the same there'd be issues out the wazoo)), while still maintaining why Cosmos would remember "her" choices back at this point in time at the Cauldron. 


Not silly questions at all! XD Some of the favorite fandom questions to chew on!

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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:48 pm

@Sailor Uranus, thank you so much! It is a shame that so many questions have been left unanswered, but it is comforting to know that I didn't miss some huge details over all these years!

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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:40 am

sailor cosmos is sailor moon 20 years after 30th  century crystal Tokyo, sailor chibi chibi is also a form of sailor cosmos

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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:32 pm

Wait...where did you get that 20 years from? Afaik there has never been any concrete evidence to how far in the future Cosmos is from. Unless it's in the latest musical which I have yet to see.


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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:13 pm

Funny you mention the new musical, Brit! Cardea made a great post about Sailor Cosmos' appearance in it and her possible identity here.

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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:03 pm

I did skim that a bit! But at the same time I kinda want to watch the musical before posting how I think on it...which.....might be a while. xD

Speaking of, since i'm sure youve had a chance to watch it, was 20 years mentioned in the musical? I'm really curious where someone would've gotten that number from as it's been a mystery in the SM fandom for as long as I can remember.

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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:05 pm

@Brit-chan wrote:
since i'm sure youve had a chance to watch it, was 20 years mentioned in the musical? I'm really curious where someone would've gotten that number from as it's been a mystery in the SM fandom for as long as I can remember.

Don't tease XD! I wish I have already!! I'm intent on watching them in order and I've only seen the first two ^^;. I have personally never seen "20 years after 30th century Crystal Tokyo" anywhere. We'll just have to wait for Sana Kurata to respond ^^;.

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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:35 pm

in the musical cosmos says that she is from the furture way beyound the 31st century  

  • In an issue of Smile magazine, Naoko said that Chibi Chibi is the future Sailor Moon. Since Chibi Chibi is actually Sailor Cosmos, this could mean that Sailor Cosmos herself is actually the future Sailor Moon.[1]Despite this, many people have many theories as to who Sailor Cosmos is.


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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:24 pm

@Sana Kurata wrote:
sailor cosmos is sailor moon 20 years after 30th  century crystal Tokyo, sailor chibi chibi is also a form of sailor cosmos

@Sana Kurata wrote:
in the musical cosmos says that she is from the furture way beyound the 31st century  

  • In an issue of Smile magazine, Naoko said that Chibi Chibi is the future Sailor Moon. Since Chibi Chibi is actually Sailor Cosmos, this could mean that Sailor Cosmos herself is actually the future Sailor Moon.[1]Despite this, many people have many theories as to who Sailor Cosmos is.



Okay, but where is the 20 years number you originally stated? All we know is that when they go to the future, it is the 30th century, that could be any year between 2901 to 3000. 31st Century will start in 3001 and all they say is that Cosmos is from beyond that so for all we know its like the year 5942. xD That quote from Sailor Moon Wiki doesn't really mention any specific numbers. So where does the 20 years come from? I'm just curious to see if it's a fan theory or perhaps there's some gem of information thats been hidden out there that I'd be curious to read. ^_^

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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:29 pm

Cosmos/Chibi Chibi is definitely a future form of Sailor Moon, but whether or not she is Usagi from this timeline, a reincarnated form of Usagi, or a different Sailor Moon entirely (such as Chibiusa or a later generation down that line) is never explicitly stated. Furthermore, it also depends on whether you think of a reincarnated Usagi as "Usagi." In the same way I think of the Silver Millennium Princess Serenity as a different person than the present Tsukino Usagi, I think a reincarnated Usagi born into a different situation couldn't exactly be considered "Usagi."

Also, in response to the first question, I'm not sure if it's explicitly stated this way, but I always believed the "lifespan" was 1000 years, rather than living on a 1000 year timer. So in the same way the current lifespan is 79 years (just looked it up), but some people only live to be 40 while others go past 100, people in Crystal Tokyo live to around 1000 years, give or take some decades. If you view it like this, stopping Chibiusa's development would, in theory, increase her life span in the same way that, if it were possible in the real world, keeping a 10 year old child's body in that condition for 10 extra years, after aging resumed, they would still be expected to have around 69 years left of life, give or take (and also assuming they didn't have permanent side effects from the suspension of aging).

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PostSubject: Re: Did I miss something...?   Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:07 am

Maybe the 1000 years thing is a somewhat figurative description, kind of like the "ten thousand years" cheer. I'm not a linguistics expert though, so that's just a guess .
The question regarding Sailor Cosmos is interesting though; I've always assumed her to be Usagi, though I guess that she could be the reincarnation of Sailor Moon from someone else maybe. (I think) Since Princess Serenity was reincarnated as Usagi because of the Silver Millenium's destruction, maybe Usagi could be Sailor Cosmos if Crystal Tokyo and Neo Queen Serenity didn't get destroyed. Chibiusa seems to in the future ascend eventually to the throne and wield the Ginzuishou, so does she become Sailor Moon then, or does she still remain as Sailor Chibi-Moon? It would seem pretty weird for the most powerful Star Seed to not be part of the stronger future incarnation of Sailor Moon. Things are not as clear as I thought they were...  
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