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PostSubject: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime8th October 2011, 9:17 pm

So, I didn't even know this existed until a couple of weeks ago. It's a LA production of Sailor Moon. I love what I've seen so far. I love their spin on the costumes, names, make up, everything. and I think the girl who is playing as Sailor Moon is super adorable!

http://thesailormoonmovie.tumblr.com/

I also find it really interesting they're using the officers from the Sailor V manga.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime8th October 2011, 9:24 pm

I'm excited. I actually donated $10 to the movie because I saw a lot of potential. So far, the producers haven't let me down.

And, not gonna lie, I really wanted to have that $500 exec producer credit. As an aspiring filmmaker, it's one of my dreams to work on a Sailor Moon adaptation someday. I'll be in LA in a few years... why couldn't they wait for me? >.< Considering they're just doing a trailer for now, the movie isn't likely to be completed/released any time soon. Maybe they'll still being adapting it (even if it's a sequel) in a few years. A girl can dream?

I think everything looks great. Though, I really wish they gave Endymion BOOTS. The design is so beautiful and focused. They definitely know what they're doing.

The subtle differences are brilliant. The costumes are still faithful but hold a modern energy. I love how her skirt is more of a royal blue. The white eyeshadow around her eyes is evocative of the glasses she originally wore. And what an ingenious idea, combining the sailor fuku with a cape!

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime8th October 2011, 10:22 pm

Isn't this the one being worked on by the crew behind Sailor Moon Abridged?

And i've seen some stuff of this around the interwebs lately. I like the costumes so far, i hope it turns out real well. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime8th October 2011, 10:25 pm

I think it's cool what they are doing, but I am not a fan of them since they stole some of my art work.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime8th October 2011, 10:29 pm

@Brit-chan wrote:
Isn't this the one being worked on by the crew behind Sailor Moon Abridged?

Indeed. Which really surprises me because I'm not a fan of SMA.

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I think it's cool what they are doing, but I am not a fan of them since they stole some of my art work.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime8th October 2011, 10:44 pm

Their tumblr posted a manga coloring of mine with no credit except for my old watermark. I am a huge advocate of ALWAYS having a source.. plus it wouldn't have been too hard to reblog me now would it?

Here is the post

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime8th October 2011, 10:51 pm

I think "stole" is kind of a harsh word. True, it would have been a nice courtesy to link you directly but I can understand if they thought it wasn't necessary since your watermark is still visible. They didn't claim it as theirs. Also, they praised your work (or perhaps the original drawing itself...). Their intentions are in no way malicious. If it bothers you that much, you can try contacting them. I'm sure they'd be willing to edit that post for you.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime8th October 2011, 11:04 pm

Nah, I don't care that much, besides, their ask isn't activated. It's more that is shows bad judgement and laziness, and/or carelessness on their part. I don't really think they are worth the effort to get mad over, or to even go out of my way to contact them out side of tumblr.

And because of the bad judgement or what ever reason, I'm just not a fan really.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime9th October 2011, 8:05 am

Sorry to hear that, Lady Galaxia. But like Reiko said, at least they didn't take off the watermark or take credit of the artwork.

I really wanted to donate, but it looks like they're not taking donations anymore. The DVD also interested me. XD

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime9th October 2011, 8:44 am

Really? They met their $2500 goal over a month ago but they still took donations for a long time. I'm sure they'll be continuing the project so you'll get your chance if you're still interested. I have no idea when this DVD is coming out but I'm pretty stoked.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime9th October 2011, 8:50 am

I'm interested to see how this turns out...

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime25th October 2011, 9:07 pm

I'd really like to see how this goes. It makes me happy that a lot of people are still so interested in Sailor Moon.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime26th October 2011, 6:12 am

I noticed this project when Moonkitty.net actually posted this a LOT on his facebook. While I like the direction they are taking this in, I'm not a fan of SMA. Although, I'm interested in seeing how this one turns out.

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Part of it has been released! I think it's amazing ^^


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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime30th November 2011, 6:28 pm

The first bit is pretty good, considering it's Live-Action. (The graphical effects seem slightly cheesy no matter how they go about it for Magical Girl shows, it seems. ^_^") I do love the cop's one-liner at the end of the partial, though. Very Happy

But Usagi/Bunny was tempting fate by asking "What could happen?" ^_^"
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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime30th November 2011, 6:43 pm

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The first bit is pretty good, considering it's Live-Action. (The graphical effects seem slightly cheesy no matter how they go about it for Magical Girl shows, it seems. ^_^") I do love the cop's one-liner at the end of the partial, though. Very Happy

But Usagi/Bunny was tempting fate by asking "What could happen?" ^_^"

Oh my god xD yes I love the cops. <3
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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime30th November 2011, 8:00 pm

There is a lot I don't like about this. Mainly with the acting and script writing.

First off, if you are going to cast American girls as these characters, it doesn't really make sense to keep their Japanese names. Keeping her name as Bunny was fine, but I had a problem with Naru. She doesn't even look Japanese, so why would she have a Japanese name unless her mom was an otaku or something? Lol. The only thing I can think of is somehow maybe one of her parents was Japanese but somehow she came out with none of the traits but thats why she has a Japanese name? :/ I also don't like the way she's written. Just way to much off character.

Now we've got Melvin. I don't get why they kept Umino's name as Melvin if Naru was kept the same? Lets be consistent here. Also, a point on Melvin. Melvin is supposed to look nerdy, not a gay guy with huge glasses. Not trying to be offensive, but that's how he was portrayed.

I also felt like Luna looks too much like a demon cat in the up close shots. Poor Luna. Sad

Lastly, the main thing that pissed me off was the fight at the end. Bunny transforms and then does NOTHING. She just stands there flailing about while Tuxedo Mask beats up the monster and then she manages to kill it. Ok, some might argue that's kind of what happened in the original anime, but really that's not what happened. In the anime and manga, Sailor Moon is all by herself and even though she is terrified and flails about throughout half the battle, she manages to defeat the monster on her own. WITHOUT any help. Having Tuxedo Mask show up right away at the beginning of the fight completely defeats the purpose of having Bunny as a strong heroine.


With that said, I liked some of the special effects (like when she transforms) and I like the costume redesigns (except for Serenity's dress). I realize this is a low budget fanfilm, but I don't agree with a lot of writing choices done here which does not necessarily reflect how the acting is done. Because I actually don't mind Bunny's actress. She portrays how I felt the dub Serena was like, except for all the "I HATE MY LIFE", but again that's writing. She was being whiny like Bunny is, but the poor script choices really bring down a lot of the characters. We didn't get enough from Tuxedo Mask to get an idea of his character but i thought it was hilarious when he just yells at Sailor Moon to run. Haha what the eff.

Anyway, these are just criticisms of mine. I think its awesome they put this much effort into the film, because its one of the better fan films I've seen quality wise in comparison to some of the other trailers. There are just things I think can be improved as well.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime30th November 2011, 8:56 pm

Okay first, if you liked what you've seen up there, don't mind reading my opinion, I think it's the only post you'll ever read of me that's so negative... Really I have absolutely nothing good to say about it!

Well... This is defenitely destroying everything I like about Sailor Moon...

Low budget, even the Power Rangers used to look and sound better twenty years ago.

Sailor Moon's wig... It looks so fake. I think it is okay to wear a good wig for a cosplay, but for a movie... Come on! I would have expected real looking hair or at least hair extensions. Also the fact that the actress isn't close to naturally blonde, it just doesn't suit her at all, it seems they tried to transform Sailor Moon into a fake Barbie.

As for her prestation, I'm sure I wouldn't have done better, I have no talent as an actress, but this is totally awful, one of the worse I've seen til now! Anime voices in any language sound more like they are actually there in the action than this! It just feels like they made a parody of Sailor Moon and they seem to be joking all the way!

Luna... I don't even think Gargoyles would look less monsterific! She reminds me of the creatures in ``I am Legend`` movie with Will Smith, she looks as terrible as them! Poor cat, how could they destroy such an icon?

I've always been used to seeing Serena much shorter than Darien and in this movie she's almost as tall as him. Choice of actors and actresses aren't what I would have expected! None except Beryl looks like the original. She's the only one I thought was well done!

For the special effects... I'll pass...

The only part I admit I like is the generic, the choice of the pictures are cool!

Anyway, I remember criticizing the Street Fighter movie years ago, but it actually was 100 times better than this! This is not representative at all of what Naoko created and I deeply believe she deserved having a better movie done for her. This is totally an insult comparing this movie with all she has made!

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime1st December 2011, 12:18 am

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Thank you! You pretty much summed up my thoughts on this movie...well, episode really. Unless there is more of this, I can't see how you can call it a movie at 21 minutes.

First off, that intro was way too long for something so short. I know they needed to explain the end of the Silver Millennium, but come on. That lasted almost five minutes! The same with the end credits. It was like most of the "movie" was dedicated to credits (and don't get me started on that end song).

They actually asked people to donate money for this? I fail to see where it actually all meant. I haven't been following their Twitter so I don't actually know how much they received and what was spent.
For a group who does indie stuff all the time, I was expecting better. Lol, maybe my problem was I was expecting something like this (which is one of my favorite fan projects):



Okay, the guy who did this spent almost $18,000 back in the early 2000's, but I thought the Sailor Moon Movie would be more polished like this.


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OMG. I'm not the only one that has seen that Batman trailer!! That was a freakin amazing trailer.

ANYWAY, yeah. I think the main problem with the movie here has to do with the script writing and the director/s (was the just one? I don't remember). They pretty much directed the characters (mainly Bunny and Naru) to be as annoying as possible. I know anime characters are over exaggerated already and its hard to translate into live action, but i think if they were more toned down and kept closer to personality it would have been better.

I actually liked the little song intro part. In fact, if they had cut out the part where Serenity was crying (not the best acting there either) and stuff, and just started it with the narrative part then the opening song with the clips of Serenity and Endymion, it would have been better.

I have to say though, the music was pretty good. I liked that much of it.

And i don't understand why some people are calling the actress that plays Bunny fat. I mean. The heck? If she's fat then I'm a freakin blue whale. XD

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Isn't it? Did you ever see the 3 part documentary the guy made on how the trailer was done? It's really interesting.

Lol right? It's because kids these days expect women to be so thin their skeletons are showing. It's kinda sad really. She was perfectly fine as she is. We need to smack some sense into these people!

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You guys may call me stupid, ignorant, and whatever you like but I thought I liked it. I mean yeah I noticed alot of the things you guys have mentioned but personally I don't think it's an insult at all. So hey, they tried. Maybe it wasn't perfect but what is? It could've been worse. I'd be glad that there's a movie at all. As for the Japanese names, I don't mind that. Maybe they could not pronounce certain names? I also believe that Bunny did sort of do something at the end but maybe that's just me. Didn't she chop it's head off with something that looked like it was supposed to be moon tiara action? Not going to be picky when I know they had budget issues. Also, I know alot of the costumes and what not must cost alot so for what they did I believe they did fine. I could keeep going here but I'd rather not. All I can say is for those that don't like it then just don't watch it. Not trying to be mean and also if you believe you can do better then make your own.
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You guys may call me stupid, ignorant, and whatever you like but I thought I liked it. I mean yeah I noticed alot of the things you guys have mentioned but personally I don't think it's an insult at all. So hey, they tried. Maybe it wasn't perfect but what is? It could've been worse. I'd be glad that there's a movie at all. As for the Japanese names, I don't mind that. Maybe they could not pronounce certain names? I also believe that Bunny did sort of do something at the end but maybe that's just me. Didn't she chop it's head off with something that looked like it was supposed to be moon tiara action? Not going to be picky when I know they had budget issues. Also, I know alot of the costumes and what not must cost alot so for what they did I believe they did fine. I could keeep going here but I'd rather not. All I can say is for those that don't like it then just don't watch it. Not trying to be mean and also if you believe you can do better then make your own.

You are not stupid because you liked it Lunaosa!

Everyone can have their own opinion! And of course, if I watched, it was because I didn't know what it would look like... I was curious about it since Sailor Moon has been part of my life for so long and still is, I just expected it would turn out better! I expected something big because the pictures we have seen of the upcoming movie made it look much better! Don't you worry, I don't plan on watching any or their following pieces just to criticize. I've seen only one short and bad is the way I judged it.

However, I realise they did put many efforts in that project and they tried really hard, but... That's the only credit I can personally give them.

I really do wish thought, there will be a real good Sailor Moon movie one day!

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I... I loved the movie. o wo;
I thought the special effects were really nice, especially for a low budget fanfilm, and I really liked how the characters were, especially the cops, reminds me of the two cops from Sailor V! Of course it was a bit short, but I like how it left it open for another movie, I'd love to see the other Sailor scouts in action!

The only nitpicks was that maybe Naru could be called Molly, and the actress needed more enthusiasm when she said Sailor Moon lines, like 'Moon Prism Power Make Up!' or 'In the name of the Moon, I'll punish you.' I don't know, just didn't sound perfectly right. But all and all, I loved it. ^^
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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime1st December 2011, 6:11 am

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Thank you! You pretty much summed up my thoughts on this movie...well, episode really. Unless there is more of this, I can't see how you can call it a movie at 21 minutes.

First off, that intro was way too long for something so short. I know they needed to explain the end of the Silver Millennium, but come on. That lasted almost five minutes! The same with the end credits. It was like most of the "movie" was dedicated to credits (and don't get me started on that end song).

They actually asked people to donate money for this? I fail to see where it actually all meant. I haven't been following their Twitter so I don't actually know how much they received and what was spent. Also, besides being makeup artists, what else did Kris and Roll do to warrant their credit at the beginning? Was it just because everyone knows who they are from SMA?

For a group who does indie stuff all the time, I was expecting better. Lol, maybe my problem was I was expecting something like this (which is one of my favorite fan projects):



Okay, the guy who did this spent almost $18,000 back in the early 2000's, but I thought the Sailor Moon Movie would be more polished like this.

God! I can't believe I haven't seen that before, especially since I'm also DC comics and Marvel fan! Of course, the reason why this short movie is so good is mainly because of the prestations and the music! The actors sound serious and play their roles as if they were the real characters! Now you're talking! It's incredible!
...That's actually what I expected from Sailor Moon Movie... Nothing less.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime1st December 2011, 7:14 am

Overall, this is a good start for their film with a low budget though there is a lot room for improvement.

I would highly recommend that whoever modeled Luna to start over again because that model was extremely unrealistic. The animation was rigged and didn't have a good convey of weight to it. The model itself could have improved greatly if there was hair particles added to the model itself and what looks like to be a texture or shader. Being a 3D modeler and animator myself, if you're compositing elements into a live-action film, it is important that you make the model and animation as realistic as possible. (This part is more than likely super crtical of me but 3D is what I love since it was a major part of my degree XD)

The acting is a bit rough but that is something that can be improved on.. At times, some of the acting felt forced and someties it flowed well. The best scenes in the movie in mu opinion was the beginning with the Silver Millennium (even though it was a little corny) and the end where Luna confronts Bunny. As for the inbetween portion of the film, the acting didn't connect well with the characters that the actors were trying to portray (minus Melvin). Maybe the script has the characters too out of character?

The inconsistencies with the character names was something I didn't care too much for. Since it seems that the plot is being based in America, it made sense to use the English adaption names. What surprised me though is that there was mixture of the English and Japanese names. I heard Bunny, then Naru, but then I heard "Melvin". Honestly, I don't agree with the mix and match. Stick to one or the other is my opinon.

I'm excited to see where they take this if they continue this, but I do hope that they do accept some feedback for any future releases they plan for the Sailor Moon movie. I did enjoy the graphics they used for the attacks, the transformation, and the dehenshin scenes, but pretty graphics can always be depeneded on when making a movie that has such a large fanbase in multiple contries. And I will say that they did a good job with the costumes and I do like the modifications on how they did the fuku costumes - in a way, it made it have their "mark" in the movie but was still recognizable as Sailor Moon.

Sorry for the super long comment, but I wanted to express my thoughts on this. Like I said, great movie for a low budget means but definitely has a lot of room room for improvement.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime1st December 2011, 7:19 am

@innocentvenus wrote:
For a group who does indie stuff all the time, I was expecting better. Lol, maybe my problem was I was expecting something like this (which is one of my favorite fan projects):



Okay, the guy who did this spent almost $18,000 back in the early 2000's, but I thought the Sailor Moon Movie would be more polished like this.

Holy crap! That was an amazing trailer! But since the person who did this spent almost $18,000 on it, there's definitely going to be differences since the SMA crew I think only had only $5,000 to work with I think (they were originally aiming for $2,500 but did raise more) - it was good work with the budget they had. As I said in my post earlier, there is a lot of room for improvement, but was a good start in my opinion.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime1st December 2011, 8:07 am

I just watched it and I like it, but I don't like it. It's kind of a meh feeling. I didn't like how they showed the end of the Moon Kingdom. In the original anime and the manga the moon kingdom wasn't shown until much later in the series. I didn't understand why it took place in America instead of Japan. I guess because it was filmed in America instead of Japan? Oh, well I didn't mind it being in America, but they should have went with all of the English dub names then. My only problem with this is shouldn't have called it a movie. Seems more like a TV show then a movie. Looks like they're going more "movies so I'll keep on watching because they version interesting. Oh one more thing, Luna kind of scared me and I wished they didn't put an echo effect on her voice. I had no idea what she was saying.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime1st December 2011, 9:59 am

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You guys may call me stupid, ignorant, and whatever you like but I thought I liked it. I mean yeah I noticed alot of the things you guys have mentioned but personally I don't think it's an insult at all. So hey, they tried. Maybe it wasn't perfect but what is? It could've been worse. I'd be glad that there's a movie at all. As for the Japanese names, I don't mind that. Maybe they could not pronounce certain names? I also believe that Bunny did sort of do something at the end but maybe that's just me. Didn't she chop it's head off with something that looked like it was supposed to be moon tiara action? Not going to be picky when I know they had budget issues. Also, I know alot of the costumes and what not must cost alot so for what they did I believe they did fine. I could keeep going here but I'd rather not. All I can say is for those that don't like it then just don't watch it. Not trying to be mean and also if you believe you can do better then make your own.

This is why people get into drama fights on the internet. No one called you stupid or ignorant. It's not really nice that you assumed we would do so just because we feel different about the film. As Jo said, we all have different opinions and we have the right to those opinions. I'm going to be very critical of anything film wise of Sailor Moon (and just about anything in general) because I have been studying film and animation as my degree. I've been trained to be constructively critical in the creative arts so I'm going to notice these things right away. I already said this was a good effort and I realize its low budget, but that doesn't excuse bad writing. Someone can have no budget, but if you have a good script and actors that can do a decent job with it (which it seems like most of these actors could pull it off with some more work) it can turn out all right.

As I've stated, Sailor Moon is not easy to translate into live action. Especially if you don't have a huge budget. These guys should be prepared for a of of critical feedback. Should there be people saying "IT SUCKS" or that Avery "IS FAT OMG"? No. Definitely NO. If someone is prepared to have good reasoning of their opinion, then by all means, do so. I don't like that there are people fat lamming the poor girl. She's like...freakin skinny. I don't even understand? I actually think Avery, looks wise, makes a good American version of Sailor Moon. She's cute and I can tell is trying to portray her as the whiny flailing anime Usagi/Bunny we love. I'm going to continue to watch it because I want to see how the rest of it comes out with the other characters. Who knows it could turn out pretty good? I just wish they'd fix poor Luna. Sad


Anyway, just because you like it and we don't doesn't mean we are going to hate you or flame you. That's not what GC is about.

And lastly as a note, if you can't accept criticism, then you can never improve. I really hope they don't have the attitude that they think its the best thing ever, how dare people dislike it. Because you can never ever improve if you can't accept peoples criticisms and suggestions on what could make it better. I don't sit here thinking thinking I'm the best artist or writer around. I know I couldn't have pulled off a movie like that simply because I wouldn't know where to start. But I sure as hell appreciate criticism to improve my artwork. Everyone should be like that if they are going to be in the creative arts. If you are interested in film, visual arts, writing, anything creative...you have to be prepared for criticisms. Or you just won't make it. You can't be scared if people won't like it because it's a fact that someone won't. You have to listen to what people are saying and go from there.

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PostSubject: Re: LA Sailor Moon fan film~   LA Sailor Moon fan film~ I_icon_minitime1st December 2011, 10:20 am

@Brit-chan wrote:
Should there be people saying "IT SUCKS" or that Avery "IS FAT OMG"? No. Definitely NO.

Fat?? She's not fat!

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